XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.atheism
XPost: alt.talk.creationism
From: lunch@nofreelunch.us
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 07:16:41 -0400, old man joe wrote
in alt.talk.creationism:
>On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:29:55 -0700 (PDT), Devils Advocaat wrote:
>
>>On 29 Apr, 12:06, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote:
>>> On Apr 29, 5:41 am, old man joe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > reason # 1. since all mankind came from Adam and Eve and Adam of his
own free will chose rebellion
>>> > against God rather than obedience, and because of God's judgment against
him, out of whom all
>>> > mankind would be born, all of mankind has Original Sin imputed to their
account Ps. 58:3; Ro.
>>> > 3:10-18... simply put, " a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. "
Mt.7:17
>>>
>>> > it's in the best interest of the Evolutionists to say that man came from
a monkey in order to avoid
>>> > being found in Adam, in whom all die. 1 Cor. 15:22 the death in view
here is the Second Death.
>>>
>>> > reason # 2. since the Flood is an integral part of God's judgment
against wicked people, as is
>>> > Sodom and Gomorrah, in that He required their life of them that perished
in the Flood of Noah, after
>>> > all, life is His possession, not ours, He can not be stopped when He
requires it back...
>>>
>>> > therefore the Evolutionists do not want a Global Flood because the
Global Flood is God's actual
>>> > punishment against one type of people... the sinner, those in rebellion
against God. God is on
>>> > record as once again about to destroy sinner's but this time it will be
the whole universe, after
>>> > the Day of Judgment. Mt. 24
>>>
>>> > because man is made in the image of God he knows very well which side of
the fence he is on and the
>>> > Bible speaks to this when in it God says the wicked are " without excuse
" in His eyes. Ro. 1:18-20
>>>
>>> > oh yes, the Evolutionists like to call anyone countering their position
filthy names, and in so
>>> > doing profess their Original Sin. they need to feel superior and their
best approach is to make
>>> > those whom respect the Living God, sound stupid. yet, not one of them
is able to show how life came
>>> > from elements that are not alive which is the starting point of proving
how like evolved out of
>>> > non-living elements... the elements comprising their human ( not monkey
) bodies are not alive and
>>> > are of the same type as those in a dead person. why then is one person
alive and another dead though
>>> > they are comprised of the exact same stuff ? because life comes from
the Living God... He gives it
>>> > and He takes it back.
>>>
>>> > the Evolutionists, as smart as they think they are, can not concoct a
scheme to explain how every
>>> > element in them is not alive though they are physically alive.
>>>
>>> > Evolution can not be true since it is not possible to get life out of
the non-living elements of the
>>> > earth. Evolution is nothing more than an attack against Jesus Christ
Eternal God who spoke the
>>> > universe into being and gave life to the living things we see around us,
and we ourselves as well.
>>>
>>> > Evolutionists are nothing more than the anti-Christs spoken of in 1 Jn.
2:18.
>>>
>>> > interestingly enough, the secular dictionary defines ' atheist ' as one
who denies or disbelieves in
>>> > the existence of God or gods. the Word of God, the Bible, defines an '
atheist ' as one whom God
>>> > has passed by for salvation which He alone provides. Eph. 2:12
>>>
>>> True what you say. Rebellion is the state of mankind. But God gives
>>> us all a chance at overcoming that if we will accept Christ who died
>>> on the cross for us. Rejecting God all of ones life, is an eternal
>>> crime ...one that none of us have to pay . Be reconciled to God and
>>> stop hoping that we came from a pond protozoa that came from dead
>>> chemicals.
>>
>>Do you mean by "rebellion is the state of mankind" that this is our
>>default state, just as some machines have a default state that they
>>revert to under given conditions?
>
>" The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be
born, speaking lies. "
>Ps. 58:3
>
>" Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. "
Ps. 51:5
>
>" For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.. " Ro. 3:23
>
>" That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the
commonwealth of Israel, and
>strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in
the world "
>Eph. 2:12 " without God " is " atheos " where we get our word atheist... a
person passed by for
>salvation.
>
>" For as in Adam all die... " 1Cor. 15:22
>
>Original Sin keeps mankind in death, twice over, and in darkness to God's
Word, from cradle to
>grave, as declared by these and scores of other direct statements by God in
the Bible.
I don't believe your hateful doctrine because you cannot provide a shred
of evidence that the Bible you worship has any validity, that your
interpretation of the Bible is of any value or accuracy at all or that
any gods, even the one you keep talking about, exist.
Original sin appears to be a doctrine invented by people to push other
people around.
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