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   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.atheism   
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   From: fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au   
      
   L.Roberts plays his tourettaphone:   
   > fasgnadh wrote:   
   >> Seon Ferguson wrote this laughable drivel:   
   >>  >   
   >>> The only thing laughable is religion and why any grown man would   
   >>> believe in such hogwash.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Sure Seon, all these numbskulls wish they had your brilliance   
   >> and accomplishments;       BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHA!   
      
   Seon received a Darwin award, not a Nobel prize!    B^D   
      
   >> The Greatness of God is something we cannot understand even though we   
   >> are aware of it   
   >>   
   >> -  Rene Descarte 1596-1650 mathematician and philosopher   
   >>   
   >> René Descartes one of the key thinkers of the Scientific Revolution in   
   >> the Western World. honoured by having the Cartesian coordinate system   
   >> used in plane geometry and algebra named after him. He did important   
   >> work on invariants and geometry. His Meditations on First Philosophy   
   >> partially concerns theology and he was devoted to reconciling his ideas   
   >> with the dogmas of Catholic Faith to which he was loyal.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> I see everywhere the inevitable expression of the infinite in the world   
   >>   
   >> -  Louis Pasteur 1822-95   
   >>   
   >> As a blind man has no idea of colours, so have we no idea of the manner   
   >> by which the All-Wise God perceives and understands all things.   
   >>   
   >> -  Sir Isaac Newton  1642-1727   
   >>   
   >> The scientific picture of the real world around me is very   
   >> deficient...Science cannot tell us why music delights us, of why and how   
   >> an old song can move us to tears.... Science is reticent too when it is   
   >> a question of the great Unity... of which we all somehow form a part, to   
   >> which we belong. The most popular name for it in our time is God.   
   >>   
   >> -  Erwin Schroedinger 1933 Nobel prize in Physics   
   >>      "My view of the World" 1918   
   >>   
   >> There can never be any real opposition between religion and science.   
   >> Every serious and reflective person realizes, I think, that the   
   >> religious elements in his nature must be recognized and cultivated if   
   >> all the powers of the human soul are to act together in perfect balance   
   >> and harmony.   
   >>   
   >> -  Max Planck winner of the 1918 Nobel prize in Physics   
   >>      "Where is Science Going" 1918   
   >>   
   >>      "Something unknown is doing we don't know what"   
   >>          -Sir Arthur Eddington   
   >>   
   >> Religion and science are the two wings upon which man's intelligence can   
   >> soar into the heights, with which the human soul can progress. It is not   
   >> possible to fly with one wing alone! Should a man try to fly with the   
   >> wing of religion alone he would quickly fall into the quagmire of   
   >> superstition, whilst on the other hand, with the wing of science alone   
   >> he would make no progress, but fall into the despairing slough of   
   >> materialism.   
   >>   
   >> - 'Abdu'l - Baha "Paris Talks" 1911   
   >>   
   >> Fred Hoyle (British astrophysicist): "A common sense interpretation of   
   >> the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as   
   >> well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces   
   >> worth speaking about in nature. The numbers one calculates from the   
   >> facts seem to me so overwhelming as to put this conclusion almost   
   >> beyond question." (2)   
   >>   
   >> George Ellis (British astrophysicist): "Amazing fine tuning occurs in   
   >> the laws that make this [complexity] possible. Realization of the   
   >> complexity of what is accomplished makes it very difficult not to use   
   >> the word 'miraculous' without taking a stand as to the ontological   
   >> status of the word." (3)   
   >>   
   >> Alan Sandage (winner of the Crawford prize in astronomy): "I find it   
   >> quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be   
   >> some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery but is the   
   >> explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something   
   >> instead of nothing." (6)   
   >>   
   >> John O'Keefe (astronomer at NASA): "We are, by astronomical standards,   
   >> a pampered, cosseted, cherished group of creatures.. .. If the   
   >> Universe had not been made with the most exacting precision we could   
   >> never have come into existence. It is my view that these circumstances   
   >> indicate the universe was created for man to live in." (7)   
   >>   
   >> George Greenstein (astronomer): "As we survey all the evidence, the   
   >> thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather,   
   >> Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without   
   >> intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence   
   >> of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially   
   >> crafted the cosmos for our benefit?" (8)   
   >>   
   >> Arthur Eddington (astrophysicist): "The idea of a universal mind or   
   >> Logos would be, I think, a fairly plausible inference from the present   
   >> state of scientific theory." (9)   
   >>   
   >> Arno Penzias (Nobel prize in physics): "Astronomy leads us to a unique   
   >> event, a universe which was created out of nothing, one with the very   
   >> delicate balance needed to provide exactly the conditions required to   
   >> permit life, and one which has an underlying (one might say   
   >> 'supernatural') plan." (10)   
   >>   
   >> Roger Penrose (mathematician and author): "I would say the universe   
   >> has a purpose. It's not there just somehow by chance." (11)   
   >>   
   >> Tony Rothman (physicist): "When confronted with the order and beauty   
   >> of the universe and the strange coincidences of nature, it's very   
   >> tempting to take the leap of faith from science into religion. I am   
   >> sure many physicists want to. I only wish they would admit it." (12)   
   >>   
   >> Vera Kistiakowsky (MIT physicist): "The exquisite order displayed by   
   >> our scientific understanding of the physical world calls for the   
   >> divine." (13)   
   >>   
   >> Robert Jastrow (self-proclaimed agnostic): "For the scientist who has   
   >> lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad   
   >> dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to   
   >> conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he   
   >> is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for   
   >> centuries." (14)   
   >>   
   >> Stephen Hawking (British astrophysicist): "Then we shall… be able to   
   >> take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and   
   >> the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the   
   >> ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of   
   >> God." (15)   
   >>   
   >> Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics): "When I began my   
   >> career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced   
   >> atheist. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be   
      
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