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From: Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com
AllSeeing-I schreef:
> On May 12, 8:38 am, Erwin Moller
> wrote:
>> AllSeeing-I schreef:
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>>> On May 12, 8:10 am, Burkhard wrote:
>>>> On May 12, 1:54 pm, AllSeeing-I wrote:
>>>>> On May 12, 6:36 am, Burkhard wrote:
>>>>>> On May 12, 11:42 am, old man joe wrote:
>>>>>>> the laughter continues as the Atheists scramble to concoct a
philosophy, which is actually a
>>>>>>> religion, based on what amounts to carnival sideshows, trying to
soothe their fear of upcoming
>>>>>>> Judgment Day.
>>>>>>> so here we have their favorite point of view around which everything
else they've concocted
>>>>>>> revolves... man coming from a monkey.
>>>>>>> animals are amoral.
>>>>>>> morality is strictly a human trait. animals do not make Constitutions
which govern people and the
>>>>>>> peoples
>>>>>> Why is that not evidence that they are so moral that they don't need
>>>>>> formal laws? After all, intra-species killing in animals is very rare
>>>>>> compared to humans.
>>>>>> Be this as it may, nobody has of course claimed that we are in all
>>>>>> aspects identical to other species - the ToE is a theory of species
>>>>>> _diversity_, first and foremost.
>>>>>>> Government. animals don't understand nor practice equality
>>>>>> Here some examples where they do:
>>>>>> Brosnan SF, de Waal FBM (2003) Monkeys reject unequal pay. Nature
>>>>>> 425:297–299
>>>>>> Clutton-Brock TH, et al. (2000) Individual contributions to
>>>>>> babysitting in a cooperative
>>>>>> mongoose, Suricata suricatta. Proc R Soc London Ser B 267:301–305.
>>>>>> Wilkinson, Gerald S. (1984) Reciprocal Food Sharing in the Vampire
>>>>>> Bat. Nature. 308: 181-184
>>>>>>> nor complain when they're not
>>>>>>> treated fairly.
>>>>>> Here are some examples where they do:
>>>>>> Friederike Rangea, Lisa Horna, Zsófia Viranyi and Ludwig Hubera The
>>>>>> absence of reward induces inequity aversion in dogs. PNAS 2009 106 (1)
>>>>>> 340-345;
>>>>>> Roma PG, Silberberg A, Ruggiero AM, Suomi SJ (2006) Capuchin monkeys,
>>>>>> inequity
>>>>>> aversion, and the frustration effect. J Comp Psychol 120:67–73.
>>>>>>> they don't ware clothes to hide their shame...
>>>>>> Darn, spurting coffee through your nose hurts!
>>>>>>> the list goes on and on how animals
>>>>>>> and humans are not at all alike as far as their corporate make-up is
concerned.
>>>>>> Not identical, no. All species are diverse from each other, that is
>>>>>> sort of the point.
>>>>>>> they don't make
>>>>>>> religions trying to prove their is no God such as the Atheists /
Evolutionists try to do.
>>>>>>> animals don't unite as an army and try to take dominance of the earth
away from man. Darwin missed
>>>>>>> that point as well as his kind misses that point.
>>>>>> And the point would be what exactly? Why would the ToE imply that
>>>>>> animals other than humans should do this? As for individual species,
>>>>>> several viruses and bacteria come to mind who might just be able to do
>>>>>> that all on their own.
>>>>>>> only in the minds of Atheists, trying desperately to find a
philosophic ( Gnostic ) religion that
>>>>>>> will for a awhile soothe their intense fear of Judgment Day do human's
come from monkey's.
>>>>>> I take it you are a greengrocer's?
>>>>>>> they cannot go to the logical beginning of where the monkey might have
come from because that's
>>>>>>> where their science ends
>>>>>> Euarchontoglires. see Waddell PJ, Kishino H, Ota R. 2001. A
>>>>>> phylogenetic foundation for comparative mammalian genomics. Genome
>>>>>> Inform Ser Workshop Genome Inform 12: 141–154
>>>>>> ... with standing still... should someone among the Atheists have the
>>>>>>> insight to wonder where the progenitor of the monkey came from,
perhaps he'll examine where that
>>>>>>> entity came from. and the entity before that... and the entity before
that... all the way back to
>>>>>>> his laughable beginning point where he concludes life came out of
absolute sterility from a one
>>>>>>> celled entity which gave life to itself, and morality, from elements
that are not alive.
>>>>>>> and these call the elect ignorant.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> Why muddy the waters?
>>>> You mean why bother with actual evidence and observations?
>>>>> The bottom line is the capacity to make decisions, be it the decision
>>>>> of right and wrong or some other kind of complex decision, is not the
>>>>> mark of something that sponteanously happenes via an evolutionary
>>>>> process.
>>>> So you proclaim. I don't have any reasons to believe you., Old man Joe
>>>> at least tried to give evidence for this claim. I showed that this
>>>> evidence is wrong, we do observe exactly the sort of behaviour in
>>>> animals that he claimed we don;t. Does not in itself mean the
>>>> conclusion is wrong, but it does mean that the arguments he offered in
>>>> support of the conclusion are .
>>> You support many of your claims with book titles but no page numbers
>>> or excerpts.
>>> Not much difference if you ask me.
>>>>> Nothing of the sort has been observed to take place on this
>>>>> planet.
>>>>> The fact is, the capacity to make decisions has to be in place from
>>>>> the get-go in order for the species to even survive.
>>>> why ?
>>>>> Clearly, thought and decision making process is evidence for design.
>>>> why?
>>> Why?
>>> See Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and Perception.
>> And there runs the coward again.
>>
>> Burkhard produced references to articles that shows why Old man Joe is
>> wrong again with all his assumptions.
>> But you are too lazy and too stupid to understand these articles.
>>
>> So you come back with that: "Adman's Hypothesis on Brain Chemestry and
>> Perception".
>> I am not sure if you misspelled chemistry, or have no clue what it is.
>> But that doesn't matter since you surely have no clue what you are
>> talking about. Time after time again.
>> It would suit you to talk Burkhard for looking up the references. Idiot.
>>
>> Erwin Moller
>
> Want some cheeze with that whine moller?
>
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>
And there runs the coward again.
Such a familiar pattern.
Are you surprised your cult is declining by the day in the civilized world?
Erwin Moller
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