XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: fasgnadh@yahoo.com.au   
      
   Seon Ferguson wrote:   
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   >   
   > "fasgnadh"  wrote in message   
   > news:mnPEn.23435$pv.1194@news-server.bigpond.net.au...   
   >> Seon Ferguson wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "fasgnadh"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:72yEn.23307$pv.18455@news-server.bigpond.net.au...   
   >>>> Seon Ferguson wrote this laughable drivel:   
   >>   
   >>> you mean Hawking   
   >>   
   >> "Then we shall… be able to   
   >> take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and   
   >> the universe exist. If we find the answer to that, it would be the   
   >> ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of   
   >> God."  - Stephen Hawking making a liar and a fool out of Seon!   B^D   
   >>   
   >> > He has repeatedly used the word "God" (in metaphorical meanings)   
   >> > [52] to illustrate points made in his books and public speeches.   
   >>   
   >> And yet Seon presumes to call him a fool for speaking of God!?   B^D   
   >   
   > he wasn't talking about God.   
      
   Learn to read, you illiterate moron   
      
   >>> His ex-wife, Jane, however, said that he was an atheist   
   >>> during their divorce proceedings.   
   >>   
   >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHA   
   >>   
   >> Yell you what you silly little bitch, you believe his EX-WIFE   
   >> and I will believe3 HAWKING HIMSELF!   
   >>   
   >> That way we are continuing to demonstrate which intellect each of   
   >> us most closely approximates, and respects!   
   >>   
   >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAAA   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > Hawking has stated that he is "not religious in the   
   >> > normal sense"   
   >>   
   >> Who is?   B^D   Jesus certainly wasn't!   B^D   
   >>   
   > Not religious in the sense that religious people are.   
      
   Religious people are religious in a variety of ways, you cretin.   
      
    > Jesus was Jewish.   
      
      
   How much more religious can you get:   
      
   "Hear oh Israel, the Lord thy God, the Lord is One"   
      
   The Shema, fundamental article of Jewish faith.   
      
      
   >> > and he believes that "the universe is governed by the laws   
   >> > of science. The laws may have been decreed by God, but God does not   
   >> > intervene to break the laws.   
   >>   
   >> Why would the Lawmaker God Hawking is discussing, in a way you have   
   >> dismissed as idiotic, you worthless insect, break his own Laws?   
   >>   
   > Because he wasn't talking about the God of religion   
      
   What other God do you think he was referring to when   
   he said that it's mind could be discerned by examining it's work?   
      
   B^]   
      
      
   >   
   >> You are clearly not adequately equipped for this discussion, you are   
   >> quoting THREE MEN who all, in their lives and actions, rejected your   
   >> moron's idiotic opinion that metaphysics is hogwash, and discussed   
   >> God at length.   
   >>   
   > But they were not believers.   
      
   Unlike you, they spoke their own mind, including   
   their views on God, and did not try to pretend   
   they could speak for others.   
      
      
   >> It's simple, follow your own advice and STFU on a subject, like all   
   >> others, about which you are CLEARLY CLUELESS, and leave that discussion   
   >> to the GREATEST MINDS OF SCIENCE.. and me!   
   >>   
   >> B^]   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > Sir Issac Neton?   
   >>>   
   >>> he never made a public declaration of his private faith   
   >>   
   >> So another Great Scientist who was a man of faith, which you   
   >> have deemed foolish.   
   >   
   > Isaac Newton was a heretic   
      
   You speak the language of religious bigots who condemn   
   the beliefs iof others which they clearly do not understand,   
   and have NO AUTHORITY to declare 'heretical'   
      
   Who do you think you are to damn the faith of others, men   
   CLEARLY your superiors, deeper thinkers, with greater faith than you!   
      
   Run along you sad little tosser.   
      
   Take my advice ....Get a life   
      
      
   > Thanks   
   >   
   >> Thanks for admitting my point and revealing what a COMPLETE FUCKWIT   
   >> you are!   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>> Galileo?   
   >>   
   >> Galileo remained a Christian all his life, you MORON! B^D   
   >>   
   > But he was persecuted by the church   
      
   IT DOESN'T MATTER YOU BRAIN DEAD MORON!!!   
      
   HE REMAINED A CHRISTIAN ALL HIS LIFE!!!   
      
      
   PROVING THAT YOU ARE A LIAR WHO CAN'T ACCEPT REALITY..   
      
      
   YOU quoted those men as examples and I showed they all   
   spoke knowingly of God, and in Newton and   
   Galileo's case were CLEARLY BELIEVERS..  and in Galileo's   
   case   .. despite persecution by BIGOTS LIKE YOU, who dared   
   to claim the power to declare his beliefs HERETICAL!!   
      
      
    > for daring to say something it's leaders disagreed with.   
      
   Just as you slander Newton declaring "Newton was a heretic" - Seon   
      
   Piss off you moronic hypocrite!   
      
      
   >> He prayed to God that the moron, even more stupid than YOU, who   
   >> persecuted him, and misrepresented him, as you are doing STILL,   
   >> would wake up to the TRUTH!   
   >>   
   >> It took them SIX HUNDRED YEARS for his prayer to be answered,   
   >>   
   > Have I woken up?   
      
   No, what does that make you?   
      
    > Idiot.   
      
   F'kin Aye!   B^D   
      
   >> There is even less chance that you will EVER wake up!    B^D   
   >   
   > So his prayers went unanswered.   
      
      
   I doubt that he was even aware of your existence, let   
   alone would pray for such a blathering twonk!   
      
   BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAA   
      
   >>> The guy who was oppressed by your beloved church?   
   >>   
   >> Not my church, you LYING moron, and not relevant because the   
   >> Church has apologised for it's idiocy and that just leave YOU   
   >> attacking Galileo for believing what you are clearly TOO STUPID   
   >> to even begin to grasp.   
   >   
   > Oh and that makes it better does it?   
   >   
      
   It makes you a complete fool without a point to make.   
      
   Naturally you are becoming a bit testy!    B^D   
      
   >> > he would roll   
   >> > over in his grave if he knew you were trying to link him with the same   
   >> > superstitious morons who tried to oppress him.   
   >>   
   >> You poor simpleminded cretin, Galileo understood the difference   
   >> between the God he SAW in the Universe which his brilliant rational   
   >> mind explored and a group of men, who could be as wrong as you in   
   >> criticising him for being both Brilliant and a believer.. when both   
   >> those cretins AND YOU, are obviously NEITHER!   
   >>   
   >> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA   
   >>   
   >> Thanks for demonstrating the 2 major differences between YOU and every   
   >> one of those brilliant scientists.   
   >   
   > Who were not Christians.   
      
      
   Galileo not a Christian?   
      
   Run along you poor deluded pig-ignorant liar!   
      
      
   >> THEY could THINK, AND they believed!     B^]   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Run along now and play with your crayons, you have demonstrated   
   >> once again, why they are theist geniuses and you are a   
   >> sub-epsilon moron.   
   >>   
   > who stands up for intolerant fools   
      
   I will preserve your right to be one with my life!  B^D   
      
    > who say I will go to hell for not believing what they do.   
      
   I give up, who say dat?  B^D  You are the one declaring people   
   to be 'heretics' not me.  I have no more idea of your beliefs than   
      
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