XPost: alt.athiesm, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   From: Smiler@Jo.king.com   
      
   Ralph wrote:   
   > On 7/18/2010 9:11 PM, AllSeeing-I wrote:   
   >> On Jul 18, 6:54 am, Devils Advocaat wrote:   
   >>> On 18 July, 10:25, old man joe wrote:> " And God   
   >>> made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their   
   >>> kind, and every thing   
   >>>> that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it   
   >>>> was good. "   
   >>>   
   >>>> " after his kind, " not after what an Evolutionist says.   
   >>>   
   >>>> in fact, going on 3 years ago, a typical Evolutionist writing for   
   >>>> Natgeo. Channel made the claim " our Thanksgiving turkey was once   
   >>>> a dinosaur which evolved back into a turkey. " crack heads make more   
   >>>> sense then these doctors and PhD's who   
   >>>> concoct such Gnostic non-sense.   
   >>>   
   >>> [snipped for brevity and focus]   
   >>>   
   >>> I know that omj chooses to post and run.   
   >>>   
   >>> But I must address this nonsense.   
   >>>   
   >>> First off, no creationist can come up with a clear definition of the   
   >>> term "kind" that all other creationists can agree with.   
   >>>   
   >>> If "kind" is the same as species, then that calls into doubt the   
   >>> idea that Noah had two of every "kind" on the ark, especially when you   
   >>> consider the logistics of eight people having to feed, water, and   
   >>> muck out all those critters.   
   >>>   
   >>> If "kind" is the same as genus or any of the other taxonomic   
   >>> categories, then that calls into doubt the creationist claim that   
   >>> evolution didn't (and cannot) happen, as there would have been a   
   >>> phenomenal rate of diversification after the flood.   
   >>>   
   >>> Also that waffle about how someone working for National Geographic   
   >>> is supposed to have said (or written) "our Thanksgiving turkey was   
   >>> once a dinosaur which evolved back into a turkey" is a claim that   
   >>> doesn't   
   >>> hold water as no source material is provided.   
   >>   
   >> Pure unadulterated lies.   
   >>   
   >> There are definitions that the atheist will not accept. Ya see, the   
   >> atheist will only accept one form of evidence. Which is synonymous to   
   >> planting ones head up their.. err.. I mean planting ones head in the   
   >> sand.   
   >>   
   >> Has anyone observed a species evolving from bird to dino then back to   
   >> bird? No. Or a fish evolving from water to land then back to water?   
   >> Of course not.   
   >>   
   >> But the atheist/evolutionist will accept science's definition even   
   >> though no one has ever observed such a thing taking place. Nor does   
   >> any process on the earth suggest that such a thing happens. Still,   
   >> the atheist believes the men in the white coats like fish swallowing   
   >> a loaded hook.   
   >>   
   >> Why do they do this? Because if they accepted other forms of valid   
   >> evidence then they would be forced to admit that the theory of   
   >> evolution is just an idea and not some kind of religious dogma.   
   >>   
   >> OTOH we have religious texts and ancient historical documents   
   >> explaining what was created, how it was created and how everything   
   >> has evolved since then. Guess what. The explanations match what we   
   >> can observe and even manipulate for ourselves. Yes, species do adapt   
   >> to their environment. I would expect nothing less from a brilliant   
   >> creator then to give his creation a means to adapt to a dynamic   
   >> earth. Anyone can take a garden or a litter of pups and manipulate the   
   >> species as long as they are the same "kind".   
   >>   
   >> Simple. Direct. Observable. Just as we find in the ancient texts.   
   >   
   > Tell me Assman, what limits changes to species?   
      
   His unfounded beliefs.   
      
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