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   Message 87,247 of 88,286   
   Mark K Bilbo to AllSeeing-I   
   Re: Evolution ? shot down with a single    
   21 Jul 10 12:55:51   
   
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   XPost: alt.athiesm, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   From: gmail@com.mkbilbo   
      
   On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:42:14 -0700, AllSeeing-I wrote:   
      
   > On Jul 20, 5:56 pm, Ralph  wrote:   
   >> On 7/20/2010 6:19 PM, Caranx latus wrote:   
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   >> > On Jul 20, 5:21 pm, Ralph  wrote:   
   >> >> On 7/20/2010 5:03 PM, AllSeeing-I wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>> On Jul 20, 8:07 am, Harry F. Leopold    wrote:   
   >> >>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:19:33 -0500, SkyEyes wrote (in article   
   >> >>>>   
   ):   
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   >> >>>>> On Jul 19, 11:18 am, AllSeeing-I    wrote:   
   >> >>>>>> On Jul 19, 9:54 am, Caranx latus    wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>>> (snip)   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>> "Rather then God"? No, fish. Not rather then.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>> You mean "in addition to"   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>> I will be praying I can get to the phone and not passed out on   
   >> >>>>>> the floor whithering in pain.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>> Why?  You think science is evil.  Why don't you just pray to your   
   >> >>>>> God to make you all better?   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>> If I make it to the phone however, I will then be praying to God   
   >> >>>>>> they get their in time and that I have an experienced EMT.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>> Why?  You think science is evil.  Why don't you just pray to your   
   >> >>>>> God to make you all better?   
   >>   
   >> >>>>> Truth is, [M]Addy, you're a stinkin' hypocrite.  Which we've   
   >> >>>>> known all along, I just thought I'd take the chance to point it   
   >> >>>>> out to you.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>>> You are free to take your chances on nothing, of course. But I   
   >> >>>>>> suspect you will call out to God.   
   >>   
   >> >>>>> And you would be *wrong*, as usual.  Many a.a. regulars,   
   >> >>>>> including me, have been in life-threatening situations and   
   >> >>>>> haven't had the least urge to call out to any unevidenced   
   >> >>>>> supernatural being.   
   >>   
   >> >>>> When I found myself laying on the floor at work back in September   
   >> >>>> of 2001 and realized I couldn't move, or feel anything below my   
   >> >>>> chin, I did not once even think of a god. I spent my time paying   
   >> >>>> attention to what I could feel and trying to find out exactly what   
   >> >>>> worked and didn't work with my body. The first thing, after   
   >> >>>> realizing I couldn't feel or move, was that I was breathing and my   
   >> >>>> heart was beating properly. (Great! Good new! This meant I was   
   >> >>>> going to probably live.) Next was to try to get my toes to move   
   >> >>>> (and keep others from moving me, hey great, I can talk and make   
   >> >>>> sense, woo hoo!) Someone find my glasses, great, Virginia had them   
   >> >>>> in hand and was keeping everyone from trying to move me. (Yup, she   
   >> >>>> understood me. I understood her, great news.)   
   >>   
   >> >>>> My eyes work, good news. (Bad news, I am still near-sighted. ;-p )   
   >>   
   >> >>>> I can tell I am laying on the concrete floor, with my right arm   
   >> >>>> twisted under me, but I am pretty sure my arm is not broken, still   
   >> >>>> can't feel anything below the neck, fingers and toes still not   
   >> >>>> working. Not so great news, but it is still early. EMT's are here,   
   >> >>>> great news. Neck brace on, back board under me, they have me   
   >> >>>> straightened out. Good going guys.   
   >>   
   >> >>>> Whoo, what was that? I think I just moved my right big toe! Try   
   >> >>>> again, have EMT watch my foot, yup, toe moved! Second best news of   
   >> >>>> the evening. (First, of course, was my heart and lungs were   
   >> >>>> working properly.)   
   >>   
   >> >>>> EMT's, and some of the guys at work, carefully lift me up onto the   
   >> >>>> gurney, wheel me out to the ambulance, I notice a bit of feeling   
   >> >>>> in my fingers, not much, but still great news. Fingers and toes   
   >> >>>> seem to be working better.   
   >>   
   >> >>>> At the hospital, doctor gives me a shot of something to reduce   
   >> >>>> swelling around the spinal cord, shortly after I get more feeling   
   >> >>>> back in my hands, still not perfect but I have better control of   
   >> >>>> my limbs, doctor checks and finds no weakness in the muscles of   
   >> >>>> the legs or arms. This is really good news. Still haven't much   
   >> >>>> feeling in my lower legs, hands still fairly numb, not so great   
   >> >>>> but I can live with it. (Hey! I am going to live, and *likely* get   
   >> >>>> around on my own, truly good news!)   
   >>   
   >> >>>> Nearly 10 years later I still haven't much feeling in my legs or   
   >> >>>> feet, and even in hot water my feet feel cold, not much fun, but   
   >> >>>> survivable, hands are "numbish," but useable, random spots on my   
   >> >>>> body are numb, but again survivable. I can walk and work pretty   
   >> >>>> much normally.   
   >>   
   >> >>>> Not once did I whine for a "god," no crying "why me, god," no   
   >> >>>> "fuck you, god." Just what I have written out above. I have   
   >> >>>> thanked the people who helped me, the guys and gals at work,   
   >> >>>> (yeah, even you Dave, ya prick. ;-) , the EMT's, the doctors and   
   >> >>>> nurses and the techs at the hospital (well, there was that one   
   >> >>>> X-Ray tech the first night...). These were the folks that I needed   
   >> >>>> to thank for doing a damned good job and for being human beings   
   >> >>>> willing to help out another human being having a really bad day.   
   >>   
   >> >>> With all that good news why should you call out to God.   
   >>   
   >> >>> But if you were in a wheel chair right now you would probably balme   
   >> >>> god like most atheist I read here do.   
   >>   
   >> >> That's a damn lie, Assman, and you know it. The last thing that   
   >> >> would cross the mind of an atheist would be to blame god. Damn,   
   >> >> you're stupid!!   
   >>   
   >> > Yup. That's pretty... umm... less than adequately well thought out.   
   >> > And yet, at the same time, it's neither more nor less than I would   
   >> > expect.   
   >>   
   >> Speaking of adequate, you left the 'out' hanging.- Hide quoted text -   
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   > You bozos can't read then.   
      
      
   What? WHAT?   
      
      
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   Mark K. Bilbo                a.a. #1423   
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