XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com   
      
   On 8/27/2010 2:34 PM, old man joe wrote:   
   >   
   > " For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and   
   unrighteousness of men,   
   > who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of   
   God is manifest in them;   
   > for God hath shewed it unto them.   
      
   I stand trembling in awe and fear.   
   So if I don't do as you say this deity of yours will trike down upon me   
   from heaven. Right?   
   Riiiiiight.   
      
   Is treats all your kind has left?   
   Oh, sorry: and lies. that too of course.   
      
      
      
   >   
   > For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly   
   seen, being understood by   
   > the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they   
   are without excuse:   
   > Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither   
   were thankful; but became   
   > vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. "  Ro.   
   1:18-21   
      
   very inspiring.   
   Have anything else to say that hasn't been said 2000 years ago?   
      
      
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   > man is made in the image of God and knows full well he is on bad, bad terms   
   with God as he try's so   
   > desperately to show by God's own Creation that there is no God. ( laughable   
   )  this is because God   
   > put in man a conscience to know for certain God exists... "   
      
   Wrong.   
   I do not have that conscience, yet, according to your own beliefs, I was   
   made in His Grand Image.   
      
      
   > that which may be known of God is   
   > manifest in them. "  it's from these texts of Holy Scripture that we learn   
   this and we also learn   
   > that...   
      
   oh... there is even more.   
   What wrong with the good old: "I'll let you burn in agony forever after   
   if you don't do as I command!"?   
      
      
   >   
   > " God hath shewed it unto him " and he still calls God a liar as he swallows   
   the Catholic Big Bang   
   > idea and Atheist Darwin's idea of Evolution.   
      
   Catholics are bad too now?   
   Jeez, it is hard to keep track of you loonies and your factions.   
   I don't even try anymore.   
      
      
   > he unwittingly becomes a beacon of truth.  God is   
   > Almighty... He's so designed rebellious reprobates that His glory shines   
   through even as they   
   > display their hated of Him.  " Surely the wrath of man shall praise thee:   
   the remainder of wrath   
   > shalt thou restrain."  Ps 76:10;  Ro. 9:17   
   >   
   > so while the Atheist's are committed to a belief system of Catholicism's Big   
   Bang idea of a man made   
   > universe from speculative philosophy's and committed to Darwin's idea of   
   speculative philosophy that   
   > man came from a monkey, cursing themselves because of God having already   
   shown to them in their   
   > conscience Creation is God made, their total inability to concoct a tenable   
   line of reasoning   
   > against Creation only goes to show the glory of Creator God all the more.   
      
   Could you try next time to write a coherent sentence?   
      
   I don't know where to begin to comment, a few possibilities:   
   1) Atheism means a-theism. the 'a' means NOT. So an atheist is a not-theist.   
   It is incredible we need a word for that, but there you go.   
   By the way: You are an a-FSMist, since you don't believe in the Flying   
   Spaghetti Monster.   
      
   It is very stupid to come up with all the possible a-XXX there are.   
   It is much more fruitful to say what people are, instead of saying what   
   they are not, which is endless.   
      
   In short: Atheists don't have a 'believe system'. They *can* have, but   
   surely most do not.   
      
   2) The fact that Georges Lemaître was a Catholic priests is totally   
   unrelevant. It is his idea that counts. Your are too dense to understand   
   the difference.   
      
   3) Darwin's idea was maybe speculative when first published, it is   
   established science (in a slightly modified form) now.   
   The fact that you don't like that, doesn't change it is established   
   science. It is not speculative.   
      
   4) Man did come from a monkey as you probably think. We share common   
   ancestors. As we do with the ringworm and a fish.   
   Maybe you should read up a little before posting next time?   
      
   5) Furthermore: Your whole above logic is a mess.   
   Try expressing yourself in shorter and clearer sentences. Maybe you'll   
   do better then.   
   If you decide to create monsters of sentences, be sure they at least are   
   constructed in such a way the reader can understand them.   
      
      
   >   
   > it's not for nothing that the Atheists make one line responses to these   
   things with cursing the   
   > poster's of Creation being solely the work of the Living God, they are doing   
   exactly as the Living   
   > God so ordered such things... " the wrath of man shall praise thee. "  Ps.   
   76:10   
      
   See my above 'one line response' as a proof of your lies.   
   I am an atheist, and I write more than 1 sentence.   
      
      
   >   
   > the Catholic Big Bang simply doesn't produce life any more than life coming   
   out of a rock.   
      
   Can you please stop that?   
   It is the Big Bang theory, not the Catholic Big Bang theory.   
   You snipes and frustration won't change that.   
      
   > dead   
   > elements do not become alive all by themselves and there isn't a single   
   Atheist on the planet who   
   > can duplicate the work of God with the bag full of words they use in their   
   belief system.   
      
   What a strange thing to ask an atheist: To reproduce the work of god....   
   Don't you ever think about what the words mean you use?   
      
   And by the way: 'dead elements' as you call atoms, is what *your* body   
   is made of.   
   The fact that these 'stupid' atoms are connected in a certain way is   
   what makes the system more interesting.   
   Well, maybe not in your case.   
      
      
   > the human   
   > body is not alive by reason of the non-living elements of which it is   
   comprised.  life comes from   
   > the Living God.   
      
   You can repeat that mantra until you die, it won't change a thing in the   
   real world.   
      
   >   
   > let the cursing begin as the Atheist's dodge this basic fact of life.   
      
   Atheists only claim they don't believe in God.   
   You extend that notice to the Big Bang (Catholic or not), evolution, and   
   a whole shitload of other confused ideas that float around in your  head.   
   I wish you best.   
      
   Regards,   
   Erwin Moller   
      
      
   --   
   "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to   
   make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the   
   other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious   
   deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."   
   -- C.A.R. Hoare   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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