XPost: alt.talk.creationism, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.philosophy   
   From: Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com   
      
   On 2/16/2011 12:42 PM, old man joe wrote:   
   >   
   > evolution depends on one thing... life coming from the elements of the earth   
   which are not alive.   
      
   Evolution depends on a lot more.   
   Like variation, mutation, etc.   
      
      
   >   
   > the Periodic Table lists all of the elements naturally occurring in our   
   world and none of them by   
   > any combination brings them to life.   
      
   Wrong again.   
   There is no difference between the carbon that is used in your body and   
   the carbon found in coal.   
   Lots of biological substances can be created without using living organisms.   
      
   If you happen to have some evidence that is not true, please present it.   
   Thanks.   
      
   > call names as the evolutionists do... curse God all they   
   > want... they simply will never face the fact that life just doesn't come out   
   of elements that are   
   > not alive.   
      
   Biologists don't curse God.   
   Are you running out of arguments that quickly this time?   
      
      
   >   
   > the human body for example... which elements comprise the human body is   
   easily found on the   
   > Internet.   
   >   
   > none of these elements are alive in and of themselves.   
      
   True.   
      
   >   
   > before the evolutionists claim they came from monkeys  they logically need   
   to prove where the monkey   
   > came from.  and what made itself into a monkey...  and before that, and   
   before that... all the way   
   > back to the first living thing that made itself alive from elements that are   
   not alive.   
   >   
      
   Why not all the way back to the Big Bang?   
      
   Why not demand biologists must proof EVERYTHING before they can conclude   
   evolution is happening everywhere?   
      
   How unreasonable can you get?   
      
      
   > and the evolutionists call those whom God causes to believe Him, stupid !   
      
   No they don't.   
   Biologists (are 'evolutionists' as you prefer to call them in a weak   
   attempt to make them sound like the cult you are in) don't make claims   
   about God at all.   
   Nor does the theory of evolution.   
      
   You are misinformed again.   
      
      
   >   
   > well mr. evolutionist, all you are saying in your belief system is that its   
   okay for you to believe   
   > in your scientists but its not okay for the elect to believe in God that He   
   created living things...   
      
   That is not even wrong.   
   It is a semantic mess.   
      
      
   > for example, the human body from the dust of the earth, that is, the   
   elements of the earth.   
      
   "dust of earth" being atoms?   
   In that case: Yes, you and I are both a collection of atoms.   
   What is your problem with atoms anyway?   
      
      
   >   
   > that it's okay for you to believe your scientists but its not okay for His   
   elect ones to believe God   
   > just shows you are trying desperately to hide your ignorance behind your   
   arrogance and filthy   
   > language... which is a sign of ignorance in itself that you don't know what   
   you're talking about...   
   > so you instead try to bully your way through the subject by intimidation.   
      
   Excuse me?   
   Who are you talking to?   
   Why the hatred and aggression and incoherence?   
      
      
   >   
   > the facts in the case are simple and direct... man is made by God in His   
   image and every cognizant   
   > person knows full well there is the Living God who created all things   
   because God Himself made   
   > Himself evident to everyone with cognizance just as He says in Ro.1:18-20...   
   rendering every person   
   > " without excuse."   
      
   Well, "mister", your holy book carries no value because you think it is   
   a holy book.   
   If you have something remotely convincing to tell us all, please come back.   
      
   Thanks.   
      
   Erwin Moller   
      
      
   --   
   "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without   
   evidence."   
   -- Christopher Hitchens   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)