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   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:44:08 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I   
    wrote in alt.talk.creationism:   
      
   >On Mar 11, 5:29 am, old man joe  wrote:   
   >> In order to promote the idea of man evolving from the ape, the   
   Evolutionists need to re-locate the   
   >> origin of man from Mesopotamia to Africa.   
   >>   
   >> In Africa there is a greater possibility of finding fossilized gorilla   
   skulls and ape skulls as   
   >> compared to Mesopotamia where the Bible declares God placed man after   
   creating him from the elements   
   >> of the earth.  and, as everybody knows, the elements comprising all living   
   things are not alive,   
   >> just as the human body is not alive by reason of the lifeless elements of   
   which it is made, but that   
   >> the Living God put of His life into all living things.   
   >>   
   >> In the magic act of Evolution, facts are invented as the need arises.  so,   
   to stay employed with   
   >> university and government grants, brand new man made facts must of   
   necessity come along at a steady   
   >> pace.   
   >>   
   >> such it is with the idea that man originated in Africa from apes some   
   200,000 years ago.   
   >>   
   >> it is avoided in their explanation how the apes came from elements that are   
   not alive and that   
   >> should tell anyone that the institutions and governments giving grants are   
   Anti-Christs as well.   
   >>   
   >> we are to believe that man came from the ape in Africa, and from there he   
   traveled to the Middle   
   >> East and then to Europe.  we are to believe the fantastic idea that man in   
   his present form walked   
   >> the earth for some 195,000 years before he invented writing.   
   >> clay tables unearthed in Mesopotamia date back from roughly 3,000 to 3,500   
   years BC.   
   >>   
   >> since the Bible teaches the location of the Garden of Eden as well as the   
   age of the earth as being   
   >> just over 13,000 years,   
      
   You'll have to explain to Bishop Ussher where you got the extra 7,000   
   years from. Of course, that doesn't really matter because the Bible is   
   completely wrong on this and the physical evidence proves the Bible   
   wrong.   
      
   >> unlike the Evolutionists the elect of God have God made proof of earth's   
   >> creation and man's beginning.  the facts the Evolutionist are digging up   
   point to the truth of God's   
   >> Word and Creation is one of the proofs of God.  the oldest cities on the   
   planet are all found in the   
   >> Middle East and not in Africa.  the oldest clay writings are found in that   
   region as well.   
      
   You seem to be ignorant about hunter-gatherers.   
      
   >> while the Evolutionists can not agree amongst themselves as to the origin   
   of life... some say a   
   >> living thing gave itself life from elements that are not alive in the   
   ocean... which ocean they   
   >> don't know and therefore the monkey they want to be the sons of came from a   
   fish.   
      
   That made no sense.   
      
   >> other Evolutionists say life came from outer space. a magic meteor brought   
   life through hostile   
   >> space alive and well and here's a grant to make an income from a corrupt   
   government so you and your   
   >> kind can go make more facts to support this lofty claim.   
      
   Please identify the government grant for this.   
      
   >> still other Evolutionists say aliens from distant galaxies brought life to   
   earth... after all, isn't   
   >> it these who levitated the heavy stones of the pyramid's ?  here's a grant   
   for you, too.   
   >>   
   >> in the patience of God these are allowed to blaspheme Christ by every   
   useless science to which man   
   >> devotes himself... all of which are designed to show there is no God, that   
   life came from elements   
   >> that are not alive in a place that shows no possibility of humans coming   
   from apes.   
      
   And you blaspheme by worshipping Ignorance, Foolishness, and Lies as   
   your gods.   
      
   >> if one stands in a cemetery he is assured there are lots and lots of human   
   remains under his feet.   
   >> in like manner, if one digs holes in the ground in Africa he is assured to   
   find lots and lots of   
   >> primate remains... just connect the dots.   
      
   You have chosen to misrepresent, lie, ignore actual facts, and otherwise   
   try to spread false doctrines. You have caught another fool who also   
   worships Ignorance, Foolishness, and Lies as his gods:   
      
   >My hunch is they do not want the dots connected. When they are   
   >connected, it becomes apparent they are guessing at the origins of   
   >man.   
      
   No. Your hunch is mistaken, again.   
      
   >Furthermore, it is clear from both history and archeology that   
   >humans originated in Iraq and then migrated in several directions   
   >across the earth.   
      
   Again, false. You are repeating falsehoods spread by religious folks who   
   refuse to look at the actual evidence.   
      
   >This fact is based on the development of human   
   >language and migration patterns as well as the archeology and others.   
      
   No, it is not.   
      
   >This is also consistent with three or more families spreading across   
   >the earth, as Noah's family is said to have done. During their long   
   >travels across the earth, they encountered pockets of other humans   
   >that somehow survived the flood; they were folded into the clans.   
      
   There was no such Flood. You are preaching false doctrines. You are   
   behaving in an intentionally immoral manner.   
      
   >It is also apparent from history and archaelogy that a highly   
   >sophisticated man suddenly appeared on the scene in that same region.   
      
   No.   
      
   >He had more then 200 categories of math, communication, medicine,   
   >science, and art, just to name a few. This could be none other then   
   >Noah and his family because they were in possession of the pre   
   >andeluvian knowledge that was acquired before the flood.   
      
   The word is antediluvian. Since that flood never happened, that period   
   does not exist.   
      
   >Simply put, the idea that man is an ape, which had earlier evolved   
   >from fish, is pure unadulterated fantasy.   
      
   Except for all of the evidence that strongly supports it (we didn't   
   actually evolve from any of the fish that exist today, but we share   
   common ancestry with those fish).   
      
   >Furthermore, it is apparent   
   >there is an agenda afoot to discredit and marginalize all forms of   
   >religion today.   
      
   No. Of course I don't see any reason to let people tell lies, the way   
   you do, without calling you on the lies you tell. Just because you claim   
   your lies come from God, that is no reason to accept your lies.   
      
   >I can understand why such an agenda exists; however,   
   >religion is a necessary element of humanity's existence. Removing or   
   >marginalizing it is dangerous and best left undisturbed until God   
   >returns to restore his creation.   
      
   If that is the case, why are you so willing to tell lies to defend what   
   you claim God wants?   
      
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