XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.antichristnet, alt.talk.creationism   
      
   On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 09:55:32 -0400, ¶       <> wrote:   
      
   >Here we have the unprovable.  Here we have the untenable. And here we have   
   why the Big Bang story is   
   >Big Baloney.   
   >   
   >They're telling us that the great mass of matter of which the entire universe   
   is comprised " was   
   >always there. "   Pretty neat... they don't have explain scientifically where   
   this mass came from.   
      
       Some people say God was always there and it's about the same thing. If God   
   does exist and had influence on the development of the entire universe as it is   
   now then to try to think about it realistically we'd have to try to consider   
   how   
   God could first exist and then somehow cause everything else to come into   
   being,   
   or more likely from my pov how the universe came to exist, then God/gods   
   somehow   
   developed from that, and then had influence on our little star system.   
      
   >And, you have to conclude by presupposing this mass of matter was floating   
   around in space... where   
   >did ' space ' come from ?  Pretty neat... they don't desire to explain where   
   space came from...   
      
       From my pov "space" doesn't exist, but instead there is endless nothing   
   that   
   in some parts is occupied by matter. If space really does exist, then what   
   exists beyond the end of it? If it does exist then there must be an end,   
   so...???   
      
   >unless of course all this matter of which the entire universe is comprised   
   was laying on a table.   
      
       How everything came into being from nothing is no more or less fantastic a   
   concept with or without the possibility of God's existence.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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