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   mur@.not. to All   
   Re: What an ' atheist ' is according to    
   29 Aug 14 15:59:04   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism, sci.skeptic, alt.christnet   
      
   On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:30:28 -0400, ¶       <> wrote:   
   .   
   >" That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the   
   commonwealth of Israel, and   
   >strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in   
   the world... "   
   >Eph.2:12   
   >   
   >in this passage of Holy Scripture we are told exactly what an ' atheist '   
   is... the term " without   
   >God " is rendered by the translator's from the Greek word " atheos " from   
   which we get our English   
   >word " atheist. "   
   >   
   >an atheist, then, is a person who is " without God. "   
   >   
   >however, upon prudent examination of this passage where the word atheos is   
   found we see that to be   
   >atheos... without God... is by God's choice, and not that of the atheist,   
   since all of the grace and   
   >goodness of the Living God is not directed to the benefit of the one who is "   
   without God."   
   >   
   >this doctrine flows throughout the whole of Holy Scripture.  the peoples of   
   the ancient world who   
   >were killed in the Flood of Noah's time were all atheists... not a single one   
   of them were chosen to   
   >be saved from the killing Flood... which, BTW, is a metaphor for the Gospel   
   of salvation through   
   >Jesus Christ represented by the Ark as a typology.   
   >   
   >salvation came to Noah and his family by the Ark while those outside of the   
   Ark, perished.   
   >this is further spoken of in the Bible that the Gospel is a sweet perfume to   
   those whom God favor's   
   >by giving them life and faith in Christ unto remission of sins and completely   
   caustic to those not   
   >so chosen by God for life and faith in Jesus Christ. 2 Cor.2:14-16.   
   >   
   >coupled with this is the doctrine of the Bible that an atheist is an atheist   
   from cradle to grave,   
   >Ps.58:3, and he remains without God in the saving sense of full deliverance   
   from the bondage of   
   >Satan, sin and death so that the atheist is on the outside looking in all of   
   his life unless God   
   >acts first to undo the state of being the atheist is in.   
   >   
   >that the atheist curses God and his fellow man is evidence enough that he is   
   abandoned by God.   
   >the nature of the atheist in the inner man examples itself by his foul ball   
   outlook on life... he   
   >knows in his heart of hearts that only misery is in store for him day after   
   day until the moment of   
   >his death, at which time he is released from his continual anguish.   
   >   
   >when the atheist curses God as he does he is evidencing to the world and   
   himself that he is indeed   
   >" without God."  that he is keep under bondage and dismissed to a life of   
   chaotic reprobation by God   
   >well demonstrates itself by the atheist that he is the cause of his own   
   effects.  for example, he   
   >blames God for his condition all the while saying there is no such thing as   
   God.   
   >   
   >we note that the condition of the atheist can not ever be repaired by   
   himself... tomorrow will be   
   >just like today, meaningless. it takes an act of God to bring him into the   
   salvation favor of God,   
   >who, contrary to the theology of Mr.Everyman, does not desperately want all   
   men to be saved.   
   >if that were true, everyone would have climbed aboard the Ark.   
   >   
   >on the bright side of the coin, so to speak, there is no such place or state   
   of being as eternal   
   >hell fire according to God's own Word, recorded for us in the Bible.  the   
   atheist simply perishes,   
   >returns to dust from which we all are made.  this evidences the great mercy   
   of God even towards   
   >those who curse Him.   
   >   
   >an amazing aspect of Atheism plays out in the atheist that he will not come   
   under the Lordship of   
   >God of his own free will, Jn.5:40.  this again shows us the condemnation he   
   is under... he is   
   >completely helpless and he is not about to change by any means in and of   
   himself.   
      
       So much of what they claim to believe depends on dishonesty--often absurdly   
   blatant dishonesty--that such people are evidence of God's existence by being   
   evidence of Satan's influence on weak human minds. They also often say   
   favorable   
   things about Satan and/or use Satanic references associated with themselves,   
   but   
   when asked directly if they would rather have Satan as their Lord than God and   
   why, I don't recall any of them ever having the balls to admit they would. That   
   again shows their helplessness...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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