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   On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:19:56 -0400, Ralph  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:51:42 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:41:27 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:56:26 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 01:57:08 +0100 (BST), Steve    
   wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>In article    
   >>>>>mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:45:11 -0400, ¶       <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> >the atheist has conditioned himself to suppress the knowledge of God   
   within himself as   
   >>>>>> >we read in v.18 and following of Romans chapter one... he's his own   
   worse enemy hating the fact that   
   >>>>>> >God has exposed his inner, secret thoughts making such... public   
   knowledge.   
   >>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>     They expose their own thoughts making it known that they believe   
   God does   
   >>>>>> not exist, yet most of them are ashamed of and want to deny that belief   
   even   
   >>>>>> after they have made it clear that they have it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Spam.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    It's a fact that the majority of atheists I've encountered who clearly   
   >>>>appear to believe God does not exist, are ashamed to admit it. VERY few   
   have not   
   >>>>been ashamed to admit it.   
   >>>   
   >>>The majority of atheists who are honest enough to admit to being   
   >>>atheists are not ashamed to admit not believing any gods exist.   
   >>   
   >>    Most that I've encountered try to claim they have no belief. Not   
   believing   
   >>any gods exist can mean having no belief, or it could mean believing no gods   
   >>exist. Even after making it clear they believe no gods exist many atheists   
   want   
   >>to dishonestly deny that they have any belief.   
   >>   
   >>>It is only those hypocritical closet-atheists who pretend to be theists   
   >>>because of family pressures or social pressure who do not publicly admit   
   >>>their real beliefs.   
   >>   
   >>    I don't recall having encountered anyone like that, but I've encountered   
   >>several atheists who have made it clear they believe God does not exist, and   
   >>then have later tried to deny having any belief. What's in question is why   
   they   
   >>are ashamed of their own belief instead of content with it, if not proud of   
   it.   
   >>The idiot child bilgat is ashamed of his belief but goes on to an even more   
   >>idiotic position trying to persuade people that he somehow found out God does   
   >>not exist. He amusingly and very stupidly wants people to believe that his   
   own   
   >>personal belief, or guess, is somehow "knowledge". Hilarious!   
   >   
   >Hate to burst your bubble, but absence of belief isn't belief.   
      
       I'm well aware of that but I'm also aware of something that you appear to   
   be   
   unaware of, which is that believing God does not exist IS belief. Your brother   
   the idiot child bilgat not only has great faith that God doesn't exist, but his   
   faith is so strong and pure that he believes he somehow "knows" God doesn't   
   exist. He can't give any good explanation as to how he could have possibly   
   found   
   out, but he claims to have found out none the less. So do you agree with that   
   he   
   did find out, or do you want to dishonestly try to pretend he has an "absence   
   of   
   belief"? See if you agree with him or not:   
      
   "Just as You know that superman does not exist I can   
   tell you with the same assuredness that god does not exist" - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "if you are reffering to the fact that I know there is no god" - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "I have admitted numerous times that I *KNOW* there is not god. On this planet   
   or any others for that matter." - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "I myself as an anti theist in fact {know} there is no god." - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "Atheists know that there is no god except the one that has formed out of   
   delusion that only lives inside your head." - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "yes I do know that god is not and never was and never will be   
   anything other than a figment from those whom are less educated and/or   
   much more stupid" - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "Oh actually I can explain exctaly how I know.. And I can even explain   
   how I found out." - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "I "found out" I got my decoder ring in the mail one day and used   
   it when I looked at the bible and it said god was not real....." - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   "I have all the evidence I willl and any other atheist will ever need...   
   do you want to hear it?   
      
   Harry Potter is not real." - bilgat@m.nu   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)