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   Free Lunch to mur@.not.   
   Re: Everyone knows God exists... even ha   
   05 Sep 14 14:29:48   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:44:28 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
      
   >On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:19:56 -0400, Ralph  wrote:   
   >.   
   >>On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:51:42 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:41:27 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:56:26 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 01:57:08 +0100 (BST), Steve    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>In article    
   >>>>>>mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:45:11 -0400, ¶       <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> >the atheist has conditioned himself to suppress the knowledge of God   
   within himself as   
   >>>>>>> >we read in v.18 and following of Romans chapter one... he's his own   
   worse enemy hating the fact that   
   >>>>>>> >God has exposed his inner, secret thoughts making such... public   
   knowledge.   
   >>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>     They expose their own thoughts making it known that they believe   
   God does   
   >>>>>>> not exist, yet most of them are ashamed of and want to deny that   
   belief even   
   >>>>>>> after they have made it clear that they have it.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Spam.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>    It's a fact that the majority of atheists I've encountered who clearly   
   >>>>>appear to believe God does not exist, are ashamed to admit it. VERY few   
   have not   
   >>>>>been ashamed to admit it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>The majority of atheists who are honest enough to admit to being   
   >>>>atheists are not ashamed to admit not believing any gods exist.   
   >>>   
   >>>    Most that I've encountered try to claim they have no belief. Not   
   believing   
   >>>any gods exist can mean having no belief, or it could mean believing no gods   
   >>>exist. Even after making it clear they believe no gods exist many atheists   
   want   
   >>>to dishonestly deny that they have any belief.   
   >>>   
   >>>>It is only those hypocritical closet-atheists who pretend to be theists   
   >>>>because of family pressures or social pressure who do not publicly admit   
   >>>>their real beliefs.   
   >>>   
   >>>    I don't recall having encountered anyone like that, but I've encountered   
   >>>several atheists who have made it clear they believe God does not exist, and   
   >>>then have later tried to deny having any belief. What's in question is why   
   they   
   >>>are ashamed of their own belief instead of content with it, if not proud of   
   it.   
   >>>The idiot child bilgat is ashamed of his belief but goes on to an even more   
   >>>idiotic position trying to persuade people that he somehow found out God   
   does   
   >>>not exist. He amusingly and very stupidly wants people to believe that his   
   own   
   >>>personal belief, or guess, is somehow "knowledge". Hilarious!   
   >>   
   >>Hate to burst your bubble, but absence of belief isn't belief.   
   >   
   >    I'm well aware of that but I'm also aware of something that you appear to   
   be   
   >unaware of, which is that believing God does not exist IS belief.   
      
   Not believing that any gods exist is not a claim that they do or do not   
   exist, merely a failure to be persuaded in the absense of evidence.   
      
   >Your brother   
   >the idiot child bilgat not only has great faith that God doesn't exist, but   
   his   
   >faith is so strong and pure that he believes he somehow "knows" God doesn't   
   >exist. He can't give any good explanation as to how he could have possibly   
   found   
   >out, but he claims to have found out none the less. So do you agree with that   
   he   
   >did find out, or do you want to dishonestly try to pretend he has an "absence   
   of   
   >belief"? See if you agree with him or not:   
   >   
   >"Just as You know that superman does not exist I can   
   >tell you with the same assuredness that god does not exist" - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"if you are reffering to the fact that I know there is no god" - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"I have admitted numerous times that I *KNOW* there is not god. On this planet   
   >or any others for that matter." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"I myself as an anti theist in fact {know} there is no god." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"Atheists know that there is no god except the one that has formed out of   
   >delusion that only lives inside your head." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"yes I do know that god is not and never was and never will be   
   >anything other than a figment from those whom are less educated and/or   
   >much more stupid" - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"Oh actually I can explain exctaly how I know.. And I can even explain   
   >how I found out." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"I "found out" I got my decoder ring in the mail one day and used   
   >it when I looked at the bible and it said god was not real....." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
   >"I have all the evidence I willl and any other atheist will ever need...   
   >do you want to hear it?   
   >   
   >Harry Potter is not real." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >   
      
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