XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:35:37 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
      
   >Free Lunch    
   >>On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:24:07 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:03:59 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>raven1    
   >>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:26:41 -0400, ¶ <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Everybody knows all matter is comprised of Elements of the Periodic   
   Table... none of which are   
   >>>>>>>alive.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Everybody knows that water is comprised of hydrogen and oxygen,   
   >>>>>>neither of which is a liquid, therefore, water isn't a liquid either.   
   >>>>>>When are you going to stop repeating your absurd composition fallacy?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>But he is right. How do you explain LIFE coming from all non-life   
   >>>>>material. Are you saying if you slap together all the complexities of   
   >>>>>a human body, it will magically come to life? What about a dead person   
   >>>>>who just died with his heart stopping? He is still made of the same   
   >>>>>stuff, but WITHOUT life!   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Where else would life come from? Life is a self-sustaining biochemical   
   >>>>reaction. There's nothing magical about it, as theists appear to assume.   
   >>>   
   >>>What starts the "reaction"? Can you duplicate it in the lab?   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Your combination of two gasses to produce a liquid, although cleaver   
   >>>>>sounding, has nothing to do with LIFE. So you need a better analogy if   
   >>>>>you can come up with one.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>So answer the question, how do you get life, from non-life? Is it a   
   >>>>>miracle? No, we can't have that, can we. So then how?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>It's not a miracle because it is just normal chemical processes.   
   >>>   
   >>>That no human can duplicate.   
   >>   
   >>Yet, though almost all of the mechanisms have been duplicated.   
   >   
   >If so, then why can't you produce life from non-life in the best   
   >possible environment, the lab?   
      
   The fact that it has not been done yet is not evidence that it can never   
   be done. Do you have any idea how much biologists have learned in the   
   past century and how many questions are still being answered? Do you   
   care?   
      
   >>>What is the mechanism or energy that   
   >>>causes life to appear in a life form? Alien technology from the galaxy   
   >>>Andromeda?   
   >>   
   >>No gods needed.   
   >   
   >Then its aliens?   
      
   No.   
      
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