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   On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:29:48 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 14:44:28 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 20:19:56 -0400, Ralph  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:51:42 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:41:27 -0600, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 15:56:26 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 01:57:08 +0100 (BST), Steve  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>In article    
   >>>>>>>mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:45:11 -0400, ¶       <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> >the atheist has conditioned himself to suppress the knowledge of God   
   within himself as   
   >>>>>>>> >we read in v.18 and following of Romans chapter one... he's his own   
   worse enemy hating the fact that   
   >>>>>>>> >God has exposed his inner, secret thoughts making such... public   
   knowledge.   
   >>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>     They expose their own thoughts making it known that they believe   
   God does   
   >>>>>>>> not exist, yet most of them are ashamed of and want to deny that   
   belief even   
   >>>>>>>> after they have made it clear that they have it.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Spam.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>    It's a fact that the majority of atheists I've encountered who   
   clearly   
   >>>>>>appear to believe God does not exist, are ashamed to admit it. VERY few   
   have not   
   >>>>>>been ashamed to admit it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>The majority of atheists who are honest enough to admit to being   
   >>>>>atheists are not ashamed to admit not believing any gods exist.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    Most that I've encountered try to claim they have no belief. Not   
   believing   
   >>>>any gods exist can mean having no belief, or it could mean believing no   
   gods   
   >>>>exist. Even after making it clear they believe no gods exist many atheists   
   want   
   >>>>to dishonestly deny that they have any belief.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>It is only those hypocritical closet-atheists who pretend to be theists   
   >>>>>because of family pressures or social pressure who do not publicly admit   
   >>>>>their real beliefs.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    I don't recall having encountered anyone like that, but I've   
   encountered   
   >>>>several atheists who have made it clear they believe God does not exist,   
   and   
   >>>>then have later tried to deny having any belief. What's in question is why   
   they   
   >>>>are ashamed of their own belief instead of content with it, if not proud   
   of it.   
   >>>>The idiot child bilgat is ashamed of his belief but goes on to an even more   
   >>>>idiotic position trying to persuade people that he somehow found out God   
   does   
   >>>>not exist. He amusingly and very stupidly wants people to believe that his   
   own   
   >>>>personal belief, or guess, is somehow "knowledge". Hilarious!   
   >>>   
   >>>Hate to burst your bubble, but absence of belief isn't belief.   
   >>   
   >>    I'm well aware of that but I'm also aware of something that you appear   
   to be   
   >>unaware of, which is that believing God does not exist IS belief.   
   >   
   >Not believing that any gods exist is not a claim that they do or do not   
   >exist,   
      
       "The gods of the theists who bother us here don't exist, even in non-god   
   form." - Free Lunch   
      
   >merely a failure to be persuaded in the absense of evidence.   
      
       Try to explain WHAT sort of evidence you think there "should be", WHERE you   
   think it "should be", and WHY you think it "should be" to God's benefit for him   
   to provide us with it if he exists.   
      
   >>Your brother   
   >>the idiot child bilgat not only has great faith that God doesn't exist, but   
   his   
   >>faith is so strong and pure that he believes he somehow "knows" God doesn't   
   >>exist. He can't give any good explanation as to how he could have possibly   
   found   
   >>out, but he claims to have found out none the less. So do you agree with   
   that he   
   >>did find out, or do you want to dishonestly try to pretend he has an   
   "absence of   
   >>belief"? See if you agree with him or not:   
   >>   
   >>"Just as You know that superman does not exist I can   
   >>tell you with the same assuredness that god does not exist" - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"if you are reffering to the fact that I know there is no god" - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"I have admitted numerous times that I *KNOW* there is not god. On this   
   planet   
   >>or any others for that matter." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"I myself as an anti theist in fact {know} there is no god." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"Atheists know that there is no god except the one that has formed out of   
   >>delusion that only lives inside your head." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"yes I do know that god is not and never was and never will be   
   >>anything other than a figment from those whom are less educated and/or   
   >>much more stupid" - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"Oh actually I can explain exctaly how I know.. And I can even explain   
   >>how I found out." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"I "found out" I got my decoder ring in the mail one day and used   
   >>it when I looked at the bible and it said god was not real....." -   
   bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
   >>"I have all the evidence I willl and any other atheist will ever need...   
   >>do you want to hear it?   
   >>   
   >>Harry Potter is not real." - bilgat@m.nu   
   >>   
      
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