XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:44:28 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
      
   >Free Lunch    
   >>On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:35:37 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:24:07 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:03:59 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>raven1    
   >>>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:26:41 -0400, ¶ <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Everybody knows all matter is comprised of Elements of the Periodic   
   Table... none of which are   
   >>>>>>>>>alive.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Everybody knows that water is comprised of hydrogen and oxygen,   
   >>>>>>>>neither of which is a liquid, therefore, water isn't a liquid either.   
   >>>>>>>>When are you going to stop repeating your absurd composition fallacy?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>But he is right. How do you explain LIFE coming from all non-life   
   >>>>>>>material. Are you saying if you slap together all the complexities of   
   >>>>>>>a human body, it will magically come to life? What about a dead person   
   >>>>>>>who just died with his heart stopping? He is still made of the same   
   >>>>>>>stuff, but WITHOUT life!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Where else would life come from? Life is a self-sustaining biochemical   
   >>>>>>reaction. There's nothing magical about it, as theists appear to assume.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>What starts the "reaction"? Can you duplicate it in the lab?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Your combination of two gasses to produce a liquid, although cleaver   
   >>>>>>>sounding, has nothing to do with LIFE. So you need a better analogy if   
   >>>>>>>you can come up with one.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>So answer the question, how do you get life, from non-life? Is it a   
   >>>>>>>miracle? No, we can't have that, can we. So then how?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>It's not a miracle because it is just normal chemical processes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>That no human can duplicate.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Yet, though almost all of the mechanisms have been duplicated.   
   >>>   
   >>>If so, then why can't you produce life from non-life in the best   
   >>>possible environment, the lab?   
   >>   
   >>The fact that it has not been done yet is not evidence that it can never   
   >>be done. Do you have any idea how much biologists have learned in the   
   >>past century and how many questions are still being answered? Do you   
   >>care?   
   >   
   >Yes, there has been near a quantum jump in biological knowledge. (as   
   >well as many others)   
   >   
   >Thus if they DO create life from non-life in the lab, it shows it   
   >requires sophisticated and state of the art equipment, as well as a   
   >deep understanding of biological life. In other words, it takes GREAT   
   >INTELLECT to create life from non-life.   
   >   
   >Yet sadly, people believe that no mind created the complexities of a   
   >life. Just random forces acting on non-life materials. (I am waiting   
   >for my car to become alive, so I can sit back and enjoy the ride)   
      
   You want to have it both ways. Too bad, you have it neither way. Your   
   religious claims are silly and your disdain for science shows how proud   
   you are of ignorance.   
      
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