XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
      
   On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:36:15 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:35:37 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >   
   >>Free Lunch    
   >>>On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:24:07 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:03:59 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>raven1    
   >>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:26:41 -0400, ¶ <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Everybody knows all matter is comprised of Elements of the Periodic   
   Table... none of which are   
   >>>>>>>>alive.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Everybody knows that water is comprised of hydrogen and oxygen,   
   >>>>>>>neither of which is a liquid, therefore, water isn't a liquid either.   
   >>>>>>>When are you going to stop repeating your absurd composition fallacy?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>But he is right. How do you explain LIFE coming from all non-life   
   >>>>>>material. Are you saying if you slap together all the complexities of   
   >>>>>>a human body, it will magically come to life? What about a dead person   
   >>>>>>who just died with his heart stopping? He is still made of the same   
   >>>>>>stuff, but WITHOUT life!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Where else would life come from? Life is a self-sustaining biochemical   
   >>>>>reaction. There's nothing magical about it, as theists appear to assume.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>What starts the "reaction"? Can you duplicate it in the lab?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>Your combination of two gasses to produce a liquid, although cleaver   
   >>>>>>sounding, has nothing to do with LIFE. So you need a better analogy if   
   >>>>>>you can come up with one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>So answer the question, how do you get life, from non-life? Is it a   
   >>>>>>miracle? No, we can't have that, can we. So then how?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>It's not a miracle because it is just normal chemical processes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>That no human can duplicate.   
   >>>   
   >>>Yet, though almost all of the mechanisms have been duplicated.   
   >>   
   >>If so, then why can't you produce life from non-life in the best   
   >>possible environment, the lab?   
   >   
   >The fact that it has not been done yet is not evidence that it can never   
   >be done. Do you have any idea how much biologists have learned in the   
   >past century and how many questions are still being answered? Do you   
   >care?   
      
       How many questions needed to be answered in order for life to begin on this   
   planet? What asked them? What answered them?   
      
   >>>>What is the mechanism or energy that   
   >>>>causes life to appear in a life form? Alien technology from the galaxy   
   >>>>Andromeda?   
   >>>   
   >>>No gods needed.   
   >>   
   >>Then its aliens?   
   >   
   >No.   
      
       Unless you can explain how God could be native to Earth, if he exists he   
   would have to be an alien. How could a being be the God of a planet he is   
   native   
   to anyway?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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