XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:05:38 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:36:15 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:35:37 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:24:07 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:03:59 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>raven1    
   >>>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:26:41 -0400, ¶ <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Everybody knows all matter is comprised of Elements of the Periodic   
   Table... none of which are   
   >>>>>>>>>alive.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Everybody knows that water is comprised of hydrogen and oxygen,   
   >>>>>>>>neither of which is a liquid, therefore, water isn't a liquid either.   
   >>>>>>>>When are you going to stop repeating your absurd composition fallacy?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>But he is right. How do you explain LIFE coming from all non-life   
   >>>>>>>material. Are you saying if you slap together all the complexities of   
   >>>>>>>a human body, it will magically come to life? What about a dead person   
   >>>>>>>who just died with his heart stopping? He is still made of the same   
   >>>>>>>stuff, but WITHOUT life!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Where else would life come from? Life is a self-sustaining biochemical   
   >>>>>>reaction. There's nothing magical about it, as theists appear to assume.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>What starts the "reaction"? Can you duplicate it in the lab?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Your combination of two gasses to produce a liquid, although cleaver   
   >>>>>>>sounding, has nothing to do with LIFE. So you need a better analogy if   
   >>>>>>>you can come up with one.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>So answer the question, how do you get life, from non-life? Is it a   
   >>>>>>>miracle? No, we can't have that, can we. So then how?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>It's not a miracle because it is just normal chemical processes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>That no human can duplicate.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Yet, though almost all of the mechanisms have been duplicated.   
   >>>   
   >>>If so, then why can't you produce life from non-life in the best   
   >>>possible environment, the lab?   
   >>   
   >>The fact that it has not been done yet is not evidence that it can never   
   >>be done. Do you have any idea how much biologists have learned in the   
   >>past century and how many questions are still being answered? Do you   
   >>care?   
   >   
   >    How many questions needed to be answered in order for life to begin on   
   this   
   >planet?   
      
   Zero.   
      
   >What asked them?   
      
   Nothing.   
      
   >What answered them?   
      
   Nothing.   
      
   >>>>>What is the mechanism or energy that   
   >>>>>causes life to appear in a life form? Alien technology from the galaxy   
   >>>>>Andromeda?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>No gods needed.   
   >>>   
   >>>Then its aliens?   
   >>   
   >>No.   
   >   
   >    Unless you can explain how God could be native to Earth, if he exists he   
   >would have to be an alien. How could a being be the God of a planet he is   
   native   
   >to anyway?   
      
   I don't explain any gods because I am not a theist. If you want to know   
   about that, ask theists, atheists don't care about theistic claims.   
      
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