XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
      
   On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:16:00 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
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   >On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:05:38 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:36:15 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:35:37 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>>On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:24:07 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>Free Lunch    
   >>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:03:59 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>raven1    
   >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:26:41 -0400, ¶ <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>Everybody knows all matter is comprised of Elements of the Periodic   
   Table... none of which are   
   >>>>>>>>>>alive.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>Everybody knows that water is comprised of hydrogen and oxygen,   
   >>>>>>>>>neither of which is a liquid, therefore, water isn't a liquid either.   
   >>>>>>>>>When are you going to stop repeating your absurd composition fallacy?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>But he is right. How do you explain LIFE coming from all non-life   
   >>>>>>>>material. Are you saying if you slap together all the complexities of   
   >>>>>>>>a human body, it will magically come to life? What about a dead person   
   >>>>>>>>who just died with his heart stopping? He is still made of the same   
   >>>>>>>>stuff, but WITHOUT life!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Where else would life come from? Life is a self-sustaining biochemical   
   >>>>>>>reaction. There's nothing magical about it, as theists appear to assume.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>What starts the "reaction"? Can you duplicate it in the lab?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Your combination of two gasses to produce a liquid, although cleaver   
   >>>>>>>>sounding, has nothing to do with LIFE. So you need a better analogy if   
   >>>>>>>>you can come up with one.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>So answer the question, how do you get life, from non-life? Is it a   
   >>>>>>>>miracle? No, we can't have that, can we. So then how?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>It's not a miracle because it is just normal chemical processes.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>That no human can duplicate.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Yet, though almost all of the mechanisms have been duplicated.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>If so, then why can't you produce life from non-life in the best   
   >>>>possible environment, the lab?   
   >>>   
   >>>The fact that it has not been done yet is not evidence that it can never   
   >>>be done. Do you have any idea how much biologists have learned in the   
   >>>past century and how many questions are still being answered? Do you   
   >>>care?   
   >>   
   >>    How many questions needed to be answered in order for life to begin on   
   this   
   >>planet?   
   >   
   >Zero.   
   >   
   >>What asked them?   
   >   
   >Nothing.   
   >   
   >>What answered them?   
   >   
   >Nothing.   
   >   
   >>>>>>What is the mechanism or energy that   
   >>>>>>causes life to appear in a life form? Alien technology from the galaxy   
   >>>>>>Andromeda?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>No gods needed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Then its aliens?   
   >>>   
   >>>No.   
   >>   
   >>    Unless you can explain how God could be native to Earth, if he exists he   
   >>would have to be an alien. How could a being be the God of a planet he is   
   native   
   >>to anyway?   
   >   
   >I don't explain any gods because I am not a theist. If you want to know   
   >about that, ask theists, atheists don't care about theistic claims.   
      
       So you had no idea what you thought you were trying to talk about when you   
   said "no". Why do you make claims pretending to have some clue, when you   
   clearly   
   have no clue at all?   
      
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