XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:08:46 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
      
   >Free Lunch    
   >>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:03:59 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>raven1    
   >>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:26:41 -0400, ¶ <> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>Everybody knows all matter is comprised of Elements of the Periodic   
   Table... none of which are   
   >>>>>alive.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Everybody knows that water is comprised of hydrogen and oxygen,   
   >>>>neither of which is a liquid, therefore, water isn't a liquid either.   
   >>>>When are you going to stop repeating your absurd composition fallacy?   
   >>>   
   >>>But he is right. How do you explain LIFE coming from all non-life   
   >>>material. Are you saying if you slap together all the complexities of   
   >>>a human body, it will magically come to life? What about a dead person   
   >>>who just died with his heart stopping? He is still made of the same   
   >>>stuff, but WITHOUT life!   
   >>   
   >>Where else would life come from? Life is a self-sustaining biochemical   
   >>reaction. There's nothing magical about it, as theists appear to assume.   
   >   
   >Yet you still cannot produce it in the lab. If you don't want to call   
   >it a "miracle", then call it an unsolved "mystery". Whatever it is, so   
   >far it is beyond human thinking.   
      
   It is true that scientists have not yet developed life in a lab, though   
   they have managed to assemble a virus. This isn't because it is beyond   
   human thinking.   
      
   >>>Your combination of two gasses to produce a liquid, although cleaver   
   >>>sounding, has nothing to do with LIFE. So you need a better analogy if   
   >>>you can come up with one.   
   >>>   
   >>>So answer the question, how do you get life, from non-life? Is it a   
   >>>miracle? No, we can't have that, can we. So then how?   
   >>   
   >>It's not a miracle because it is just normal chemical processes.   
   >   
   >It is not that simple, since you cannot duplicate it in the lab.   
      
   And when there is life in a lab, you will say that is evidence that we   
   needed intelligence. Your ignorance of science and blind adherence to   
   religious dogma makes it impossible for you to engage in informed   
   discussion.   
      
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