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   mur@.not. to Free Lunch   
   Re: The Big Bangers and Evolutionists re   
   18 Sep 14 17:20:33   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.philosophy   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism   
      
   On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:27:40 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:57:43 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:16:18 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:51:01 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:22:50 -0500, Free Lunch    
   wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:03:59 -0400, James <1rilu2@windstream.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>raven1    
   >>>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 06:26:41 -0400, ¶ <> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>Everybody knows all matter is comprised of Elements of the Periodic   
   Table... none of which are   
   >>>>>>>>alive.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>Everybody knows that water is comprised of hydrogen and oxygen,   
   >>>>>>>neither of which is a liquid, therefore, water isn't a liquid either.   
   >>>>>>>When are you going to stop repeating your absurd composition fallacy?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>But he is right. How do you explain LIFE coming from all non-life   
   >>>>>>material. Are you saying if you slap together all the complexities of   
   >>>>>>a human body, it will magically come to life? What about a dead person   
   >>>>>>who just died with his heart stopping? He is still made of the same   
   >>>>>>stuff, but WITHOUT life!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Where else would life come from? Life is a self-sustaining biochemical   
   >>>>>reaction. There's nothing magical about it, as theists appear to assume.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -   
   Arthur   
   >>>>C. Clarke   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>Your combination of two gasses to produce a liquid, although cleaver   
   >>>>>>sounding, has nothing to do with LIFE. So you need a better analogy if   
   >>>>>>you can come up with one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>So answer the question, how do you get life, from non-life? Is it a   
   >>>>>>miracle? No, we can't have that, can we. So then how?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>It's not a miracle because it is just normal chemical processes.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    Even IF humans eventually learn to produce life from lifeless material   
   life   
   >>>>might STILL REMAIN evidence of God's existence.   
   >>>   
   >>>No.   
   >>   
   >>    Provide your evidence.   
   >   
   >For what?   
      
       That you were correct when you said "no" of course.   
      
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