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   Free Lunch to me@nothere.biz   
   Re: Everyone knows God exists... even ha   
   07 Oct 14 19:07:53   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:00:58 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
      
   >On 07-October-2014 10:11 AM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:02:38 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 06-October-2014 12:14 AM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 12:25:36 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 29-September-2014 11:03 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:09:13 -0500, Free Lunch    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>> ..   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:33:40 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:25:48 -0500, Free Lunch    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:22:41 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:08:16 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:57:07 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:54:14 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:47:16 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> ...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>       "The gods of the theists who bother us here don't exist,   
   even in non-god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> form." - Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that we don't bother trying to decide of the entire set   
   of all   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> possible gods do or do not exist does not affect the fact that   
   the gods   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> preached by the theist fools who waste our time in alt.atheism   
   do not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>       Present your evidence, not just the possibility you've put   
   your faith in.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Define your god for me so I can show you that your god does not   
   exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>      To me the minimum would be a being not native to Earth that   
   had deliberate   
   >>>>>>>>>> influence on the way life developed on this planet.   
   >>>>>>>>> So your god is trivially unimportant.   
   >>>>>>>>       Not compared to you, or me, or anyone else who has ever lived.   
   >>>>>>> How so? Your god is one of those that is completely unsubstantiated and   
   >>>>>>> meaningless.   
   >>>>>>        We were discussing a definition, not the amount of proof of the   
   actual   
   >>>>>> existence or not of what is being defined.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Fine.   
   >>>>>>>>       You damn sure can't do anything about it no matter what you say   
   or try to   
   >>>>>>>> do.   
   >>>>>>> I agree that I cannot turn you into a rational human. That is your   
   >>>>>>> problem.   
   >>>>>>        I consider the possibility that there is no God associated with   
   Earth, and   
   >>>>>> the possibility that there is. I've also challenged many of you   
   atheists, and   
   >>>>>> probably you yourself, to try to explain why I should put my faith in   
   the first   
   >>>>>> possibility being the correct one. Until one of you people finally   
   manages to   
   >>>>>> give some respectable reason(s) why I should put my faith in that first   
   >>>>>> possibility being the correct ONE, it will continue to seem much more   
   rational   
   >>>>>> to consider more than that one and not put faith in it.   
   >>>>> They have no answer for this   
   >>>> Mur may or may not have a completely different definition of god from   
   >>>> you, but he likes being coy about it. He doesn't tell you what he   
   >>>> believes, merely that he has fun trying to bait others.   
   >>> whatever. the point is that it makes more sense to allow all   
   >>> possibilities rather than be committed to just one   
   >> Why are you willing to believe the most absurd, evidence-free claims?   
   >   
   >lol, that's funny coming from an atheist who has no evidence for his   
   >no-god position.   
      
   Since there is no evidence for any gods, it would be silly to claim that   
   Wotan or whatever god you worship exists.   
      
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