XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:07:53 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 15:00:58 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 07-October-2014 10:11 AM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:02:38 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 06-October-2014 12:14 AM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 12:25:36 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 29-September-2014 11:03 AM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:09:13 -0500, Free Lunch    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>> ..   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:33:40 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:25:48 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 17:22:41 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:08:16 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:57:07 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:54:14 -0500, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:47:16 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> ...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       "The gods of the theists who bother us here don't exist,   
   even in non-god   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form." - Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fact that we don't bother trying to decide of the entire   
   set of all   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible gods do or do not exist does not affect the fact that   
   the gods   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> preached by the theist fools who waste our time in alt.atheism   
   do not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Present your evidence, not just the possibility you've put   
   your faith in.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Define your god for me so I can show you that your god does not   
   exist.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>      To me the minimum would be a being not native to Earth that   
   had deliberate   
   >>>>>>>>>>> influence on the way life developed on this planet.   
   >>>>>>>>>> So your god is trivially unimportant.   
   >>>>>>>>>       Not compared to you, or me, or anyone else who has ever lived.   
   >>>>>>>> How so? Your god is one of those that is completely unsubstantiated   
   and   
   >>>>>>>> meaningless.   
   >>>>>>>        We were discussing a definition, not the amount of proof of the   
   actual   
   >>>>>>> existence or not of what is being defined.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Fine.   
   >>>>>>>>>       You damn sure can't do anything about it no matter what you   
   say or try to   
   >>>>>>>>> do.   
   >>>>>>>> I agree that I cannot turn you into a rational human. That is your   
   >>>>>>>> problem.   
   >>>>>>>        I consider the possibility that there is no God associated with   
   Earth, and   
   >>>>>>> the possibility that there is. I've also challenged many of you   
   atheists, and   
   >>>>>>> probably you yourself, to try to explain why I should put my faith in   
   the first   
   >>>>>>> possibility being the correct one. Until one of you people finally   
   manages to   
   >>>>>>> give some respectable reason(s) why I should put my faith in that first   
   >>>>>>> possibility being the correct ONE, it will continue to seem much more   
   rational   
   >>>>>>> to consider more than that one and not put faith in it.   
   >>>>>> They have no answer for this   
   >>>>> Mur may or may not have a completely different definition of god from   
   >>>>> you, but he likes being coy about it. He doesn't tell you what he   
   >>>>> believes, merely that he has fun trying to bait others.   
   >>>> whatever. the point is that it makes more sense to allow all   
   >>>> possibilities rather than be committed to just one   
   >>> Why are you willing to believe the most absurd, evidence-free claims?   
   >>   
   >>lol, that's funny coming from an atheist who has no evidence for his   
   >>no-god position.   
   >   
   >Since there is no evidence for any gods, it would be silly to claim that   
   >Wotan or whatever god you worship exists.   
      
       Since there's no evidence that God doesn't exist, it would be as or more   
   silly to claim no gods exist. Since you don't have the slightest idea what sort   
   of evidence you think should be where or why you think it should be there if   
   God   
   does exist, it would be retarded to think you have any idea what you think   
   you're trying to talk about since all evidence says you have none.   
      
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