XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: Dean"@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/9/2014 4:41 PM, August Rode wrote:   
   > On 09/10/2014 4:02 PM, R.Dean wrote:   
   >> On 10/8/2014 8:12 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 00:02:55 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 10/7/2014 9:12 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>>>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:45:46 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 10/6/2014 7:49 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:27:42 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 9/28/2014 9:05 PM, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:10:14 -0500, Free Lunch   
   >>>>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:34:35 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:27:00 -0600, Uergil    
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> mur@.not.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Most that I've encountered try to claim they have no belief.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not believing   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> any gods exist can mean having no belief, or it could mean   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> believing no gods   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Even after making it clear they believe no gods exist   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> many atheists   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Most atheists only SUSPECT that no gods exist   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>        No place(s) in the entire universe? Or just none   
   >>>>>>>>>>> associated with this planet   
   >>>>>>>>>>> or star system?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> There are zero gods that are supported by evidence.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>         Try to explain WHAT sort of evidence you think there   
   >>>>>>>>> "should be", WHERE you   
   >>>>>>>>> think it "should be", and WHY you think it "should be" to God's   
   >>>>>>>>> benefit for him   
   >>>>>>>>> to provide us with it if he exists.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Science is materialist, thus limited and confined to natural   
   >>>>>>>> occurrence   
   >>>>>>>> and natural entities made up of matter, thus the scientific   
   >>>>>>>> method has   
   >>>>>>>> no capability to examine and study the unnatural; therefore there   
   >>>>>>>> can be   
   >>>>>>>> no solid, empirical evidence for Deity, since Deity does not   
   >>>>>>>> consist of   
   >>>>>>>> matter.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So you are objecting that science doesn't accept bullshit that   
   >>>>>>> people   
   >>>>>>> make up and attribute to some god or other.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I simply stated facts.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Religious claims are not facts.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> What about the above statement, in you opinion, does not portend facts?   
   >>>   
   >>> The idea that there a nonexistent things that can be studied.   
   >>>   
   >> By non existent things, you mean non-material.   
   >   
   > I'm pretty sure he meant nonexistent.   
   >   
   >> It's arrogance to assert   
   >> there are no non-existent things,   
   >   
   > If you can demonstrate that any nonexistent thing exists, go for it.   
    >   
   A contradiction in terms - you demand evidence of the existence of   
   non-existing things? This is the equivalent of demanding funds in a   
   non-existent bank account. This is demanding the impossible.   
   >   
   >> since by things we concede that such   
   >> is made up of matter, and no Jews or Christians believe that deity   
   >> consist of matter. So what you wrote has no significence to the   
   >> christian, but for you, it's strictly self gratification.   
   >   
      
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