XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism
XPost: sci.skeptic
From: Dean"@gmail.com
On 10/10/2014 1:50 PM, August Rode wrote:
> On 10/10/2014 11:24 AM, R.Dean wrote:
>> On 10/9/2014 4:41 PM, August Rode wrote:
>>> On 09/10/2014 4:02 PM, R.Dean wrote:
>>>> On 10/8/2014 8:12 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 00:02:55 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/7/2014 9:12 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 22:45:46 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/6/2014 7:49 PM, Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 18:27:42 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/28/2014 9:05 PM, mur@.not. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:10:14 -0500, Free Lunch
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:34:35 -0400, mur@.not. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:27:00 -0600, Uergil
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mur@.not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most that I've encountered try to claim they have no belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not believing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any gods exist can mean having no belief, or it could mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believing no gods
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exist. Even after making it clear they believe no gods exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many atheists
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most atheists only SUSPECT that no gods exist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No place(s) in the entire universe? Or just none
>>>>>>>>>>>>> associated with this planet
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or star system?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are zero gods that are supported by evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Try to explain WHAT sort of evidence you think there
>>>>>>>>>>> "should be", WHERE you
>>>>>>>>>>> think it "should be", and WHY you think it "should be" to God's
>>>>>>>>>>> benefit for him
>>>>>>>>>>> to provide us with it if he exists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Science is materialist, thus limited and confined to natural
>>>>>>>>>> occurrence
>>>>>>>>>> and natural entities made up of matter, thus the scientific
>>>>>>>>>> method has
>>>>>>>>>> no capability to examine and study the unnatural; therefore there
>>>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>>>> no solid, empirical evidence for Deity, since Deity does not
>>>>>>>>>> consist of
>>>>>>>>>> matter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you are objecting that science doesn't accept bullshit that
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> make up and attribute to some god or other.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I simply stated facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Religious claims are not facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the above statement, in you opinion, does not portend
>>>>>> facts?
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea that there a nonexistent things that can be studied.
>>>>>
>>>> By non existent things, you mean non-material.
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure he meant nonexistent.
>>>
>>>> It's arrogance to assert
>>>> there are no non-existent things,
>>>
>>> If you can demonstrate that any nonexistent thing exists, go for it.
>> >
>> A contradiction in terms - you demand evidence of the existence of
>> non-existing things? This is the equivalent of demanding funds in a
>> non-existent bank account. This is demanding the impossible.
>
> Then why did you say, "It's arrogance to assert there are no
> non-existent things"? The statement implies that you think that some
> non-existent things exist which, as you've correctly pointed out, is a
> contradiction in terms.
>
I think the continued use the term "non-existent" instead of
"non-material" is arrogance, since non-existent does not apply where
Christians are concerned. In my view, It's strictly an anti-religious
proclivity.
>
>>>> since by things we concede that such
>>>> is made up of matter, and no Jews or Christians believe that deity
>>>> consist of matter. So what you wrote has no significence to the
>>>> christian, but for you, it's strictly self gratification.
>
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