XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:44:33 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   wrote:   
      
   >On 10/11/2014 12:23 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 23:06:14 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 10/10/2014 8:48 PM, August Rode wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/10/2014 6:52 PM, R.Dean wrote:   
   >>>>> On 10/10/2014 3:33 PM, August Rode wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/10/2014 2:39 PM, R.Dean wrote:   
   >> ...   
   >>>>>>> I think the continued use the term "non-existent" instead of   
   >>>>>>> "non-material" is arrogance, since non-existent does not apply where   
   >>>>>>> Christians are concerned.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> It doesn't? Surely either something exists or it doesn't, right?   
   >>>>>> Believing that God exists doesn't automatically mean that God exists,   
   >>>>>> right?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Hmm... you don't seem to like answering questions. Is there a particular   
   >>>> reason for that?   
   >>>>   
   >>> We've addressed this before. I've never _claimed_ it does. When you   
   >>> demand natural explanations for everything how is this resolved?   
   >>   
   >> You'll need to show us what other explanations exist and how they work.   
   > >   
   >When you will accept nothing,  but naturalistic explanations, It seems   
   >you are not open to other explanations. But that's fine, it's your   
   >right.   
   > >   
   >>   
   >>>>>>> In my view, It's strictly an anti-religious   
   >>>>>>> proclivity.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In the same way that continuing to claim that God exists is a religious   
   >>>>>> proclivity?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>> Who is this in reference to? Who _claims_ that God exist?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Unless I miss my guess, *all* Christians do. There's really not much   
   >>>> reason to be a Christian if God doesn't exist, is there?   
   >>>>   
   >>> Christians _believe_ God exist. They cannot prove he does. It's a matter   
   >>> primarily of faith.   
   >>   
   >> Why do so many of them insist that we believe what they know they cannot   
   >> back up?   
   >>   
   >Maybe a few fundamentalist try, but the mainstream denominations don't   
   >usually bother. They do not send missionaries to the western world.   
   >   
   As long as the fundamentalists are not condemned as heretics by the   
   mainstream, the fundies feel empowered. The religion doesn't matter.   
   Fundy Christians are no better than the Islamic State.   
      
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