XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: Dean"@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/11/2014 7:08 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   > On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:44:33 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 10/11/2014 12:23 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 23:06:14 -0400, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 10/10/2014 8:48 PM, August Rode wrote:   
   >>>>> On 10/10/2014 6:52 PM, R.Dean wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/10/2014 3:33 PM, August Rode wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 10/10/2014 2:39 PM, R.Dean wrote:   
   >>> ...   
   >>>>>>>> I think the continued use the term "non-existent" instead of   
   >>>>>>>> "non-material" is arrogance, since non-existent does not apply where   
   >>>>>>>> Christians are concerned.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It doesn't? Surely either something exists or it doesn't, right?   
   >>>>>>> Believing that God exists doesn't automatically mean that God exists,   
   >>>>>>> right?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Hmm... you don't seem to like answering questions. Is there a particular   
   >>>>> reason for that?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> We've addressed this before. I've never _claimed_ it does. When you   
   >>>> demand natural explanations for everything how is this resolved?   
   >>>   
   >>> You'll need to show us what other explanations exist and how they work.   
   >>>   
   >> When you will accept nothing,  but naturalistic explanations, It seems   
   >> you are not open to other explanations. But that's fine, it's your   
   >> right.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>>> In my view, It's strictly an anti-religious   
   >>>>>>>> proclivity.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> In the same way that continuing to claim that God exists is a religious   
   >>>>>>> proclivity?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Who is this in reference to? Who _claims_ that God exist?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Unless I miss my guess, *all* Christians do. There's really not much   
   >>>>> reason to be a Christian if God doesn't exist, is there?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Christians _believe_ God exist. They cannot prove he does. It's a matter   
   >>>> primarily of faith.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why do so many of them insist that we believe what they know they cannot   
   >>> back up?   
   >>>   
   >> Maybe a few fundamentalist try, but the mainstream denominations don't   
   >> usually bother. They do not send missionaries to the western world.   
   >>   
   > As long as the fundamentalists are not condemned as heretics by the   
   > mainstream, the fundies feel empowered. The religion doesn't matter.   
   > Fundy Christians are no better than the Islamic State.   
    >   
   Islamic State? That would be Isis. I don't see Fundy Christian marching   
   into cities and slaughtering people. I've yet to see a Christian suicide   
   bomber, nor have I heard of a Fundy Christian who beheaded another   
   person. While Fundy Christians send missionaries into Africa, and other   
   places, they do not demand "convert or die". In a Christian land you can   
   criticize Christianity, Jesus Christ, or the Pope   
   with no fear being killed. But you will not criticize the Islamic   
   Prophet in an Islamic State with equal impunity.   
      
      
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