XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 04-November-2014 9:50 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
      
   > On 4/11/2014 9:39 PM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >> On 04-November-2014 7:53 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 4/11/2014 4:54 PM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>> On 02-November-2014 11:32 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On 1/11/2014 7:05 AM, The.W@tcher wrote:   
   >>>>>> For years atheists have demanded what they call "evidence" of God's   
   >>>>>> existence,   
   >>>>>> when what they really have been demanding is proof. When presented   
   >>>>>> with evidence   
   >>>>>> of various types they dishonestly have denied the fact that it is   
   >>>>>> evidence,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Care to list what you consider to be the evidence that's been   
   >>>>> presented?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I guess you've never heard of Jesus Christ then?   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, I've heard of him. He appears to have been someone who lived   
   >>> about two thousand years ago, and was killed by the Romans. Some   
   >>> decades afterwards, some stuff was written about him, and in those   
   >>> writings, some improbable events are described.   
   >>>   
   >>> As evidence of God, it's a bit thin,   
   >>   
   >> but it is evidence nevertheless. just as all that is written about him   
   >> is, and the testimony of believers, and the reported miracles, etc.,   
   >> it's ALL evidence   
   >   
   > My claim herein to be worth $Three billion is evidence of my huge   
   > wealth. But it's not very good evidence. Indeed, its value is as near   
   > to zero as it gets. In everyday language, people would be justified in   
   > saying that it's not evidence at all.   
   >   
   > So, if you want, we can split hairs on exactly what is meant by   
   > "evidence", but for practical purposes, the writings, testimony of   
   > believers, and reported miracles, are of so little evidentiary value   
   > as not to count as evidence at all.   
      
   not when there are literally billions of people who consider they have   
   good reason(s) to believe. only ppl who want to deny the existence of   
   God try to claim that no evidence of God exists.   
      
   >   
   >>> particularly when we take into account that the world has always been   
   >>> full of people deceiving others for their own ends, making up stories,   
   >>> and generally have poor memories.   
   >>   
   >> that relates to the value or worth of the evidence which is a different   
   >> matter to the existence of the evidence itself   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Used cars get sold with better documentation than that.   
   >>   
   >> they didn't have cars in those days   
   >   
   > If they had had, they'd have got better documentation with them.   
   >   
   > Sylvia.   
   >   
      
      
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