XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:09:41 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   .   
   >On 05-November-2014 6:22 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 5/11/2014 5:36 PM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>> On 05-November-2014 10:30 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 5/11/2014 10:26 AM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>>> On 05-November-2014 10:23 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 5/11/2014 8:39 AM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> ppl believe because of the evidence   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So, we needn't concern ourselves about the fact that people believe.   
   >>>>>> We need only look at the evidence that causes them to believe.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> What is that evidence?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> in regards to what?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You said people believe because of the evidence.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So in regards to whatever it is that the people believe.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'm not sure what you're on about. ppl believe what they do for a   
   >>> reason. the reason for any belief will vary according to the basis   
   >>> for it.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> The reason most people believe in God is that their parents told them   
   >> to when they had no intellectual defence. I was fortunate not to   
   >> suffer that kind of child abuse.   
   >   
   >and so it would follow then that the reason most people don't believe in   
   >God is that their parents told them not to when they had no intellectual   
   >defence. IOW atheists raise atheists and religious parents indoctrinate   
   >their children with their beliefs. but a strange thing about children..   
   >they grow up to be adults who can think for themselves and make their   
   >own decisions about what to believe or not. and of course many children   
   >are not influenced about theism either way by responsible parents, such   
   >as mine were, and adults make choices about what they believe regardless   
   >of childhood influences, or lack thereof.   
      
       There's also the aspect of the lying necessary to insist there is no   
   evidence. The fact is that ALL evidence suggests God does exist since there's   
   NO   
   EVIDENCE he does not. That fact works against what atheists WANT TO believe,   
   and   
   claim to have put their own faith in even as they deny their faith. So the   
   situation is that all evidence says God does exist yet atheists deny there is   
   any, and atheists claim to believe what they say meaning they claim to have   
   faith in their own belief while at the same time denying their own faith. On   
   top   
   of all that stupidity their demand for evidence PROVES they think there should   
   be some proof of God's existence if he does exist yet they have not the   
   slightest clue what they think it should be, where it should be or why it   
   should   
   be there. They are truly like morons in regards to this topic, yet they like to   
   think of themselves as authorities and feel that their abosute cluelessness is   
   somehow intelligent. As is often the case, just describing the position they're   
   in is hilarious.   
      
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