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   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 10:18:59 -0500, Ralph  wrote:   
   .   
   >On 11/6/2014 1:48 PM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >> On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:09:41 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >> .   
   >>> On 05-November-2014 6:22 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 5/11/2014 5:36 PM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>>> On 05-November-2014 10:30 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 5/11/2014 10:26 AM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 05-November-2014 10:23 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 5/11/2014 8:39 AM, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> ppl believe because of the evidence   
   >>>>>>>> So, we needn't concern ourselves about the fact that people believe.   
   >>>>>>>> We need only look at the evidence that causes them to believe.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> What is that evidence?   
   >>>>>>> in regards to what?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You said people believe because of the evidence.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So in regards to whatever it is that the people believe.   
   >>>>> I'm not sure what you're on about. ppl believe what they do for a   
   >>>>> reason. the reason for any belief will vary according to the basis   
   >>>>> for it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> The reason most people believe in God is that their parents told them   
   >>>> to when they had no intellectual defence. I was fortunate not to   
   >>>> suffer that kind of child abuse.   
   >>> and so it would follow then that the reason most people don't believe in   
   >>> God is that their parents told them not to when they had no intellectual   
   >>> defence. IOW atheists raise atheists and religious parents indoctrinate   
   >>> their children with their beliefs. but a strange thing about children..   
   >>> they grow up to be adults who can think for themselves and make their   
   >>> own decisions about what to believe or not. and of course many children   
   >>> are not influenced about theism either way by responsible parents, such   
   >>> as mine were, and adults make choices about what they believe regardless   
   >>> of childhood influences, or lack thereof.   
   >>      There's also the aspect of the lying necessary to insist there is no   
   >> evidence. The fact is that ALL evidence suggests God does exist since   
   there's NO   
   >> EVIDENCE he does not. That fact works against what atheists WANT TO   
   believe, and   
   >> claim to have put their own faith in even as they deny their faith. So the   
   >> situation is that all evidence says God does exist yet atheists deny there   
   is   
   >> any, and atheists claim to believe what they say meaning they claim to have   
   >> faith in their own belief while at the same time denying their own faith.   
   On top   
   >> of all that stupidity their demand for evidence PROVES they think there   
   should   
   >> be some proof of God's existence if he does exist yet they have not the   
   >> slightest clue what they think it should be, where it should be or why it   
   should   
   >> be there. They are truly like morons in regards to this topic, yet they   
   like to   
   >> think of themselves as authorities and feel that their abosute cluelessness   
   is   
   >> somehow intelligent. As is often the case, just describing the position   
   they're   
   >> in is hilarious.   
   >   
   >The only thing that is hilarious is your stupidity.   
      
       That's a stupid thing to say, since like I pointed out, as is often the   
   case   
   just describing the position these atheists are in is hilarious.   
      
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