XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:55:08 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
      
   >On 30-December-2014 2:11 PM, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 14:02:04 +1100, felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 30-December-2014 1:27 PM, Malte Runz wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> "felix_unger"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   >>>> news:cgdpvbFdtgnU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (snip)   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> ... atheists cannot prove God does not exist, you can only believe it   
   >>>>> to be the case, and so you have faith that belief is correct.   
   >>>> And so do you, have faith, when you believe in the non-existence of   
   >>>> invisible pink unicorns in a parallel universe, right?   
   >>> I have faith (confidence) in a belief that such a proposition is   
   >>> nonsense is true   
   >> Yet the IPU relies on exactly as much evidence   
   >   
   >wrong. there is no evidence for the IPU   
      
   Which is exactly as much evidence as you have for every other deity.   
      
   >>   as the deity you worship.   
   >   
   >and still you lie about me. if you continue to do so, I will disengage.   
   >I might as well, you have persisted on every occasion that I have   
   >engaged with you.   
      
   It's hard to believe you are atheist since you spend so much time   
   attacking atheism and defending theism.   
      
   >>>> I don't believe we're all brains soaking in pods in a matrix, either,   
   >>>> even if I can't prove it, and it doesn't take faith to not believe it.   
   >>>> I live my life, as if we aren't 'soakers' and as if there are no gods.   
   >>>> All three possibilites are equally absurd, and to make it a question   
   >>>> about faith shows a lack of understanding.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But... why can't you and so many of the, openly, theistic minded,   
   >>>> understand that it does not take faith to not believe in something,   
   >>>> which takes faith to have belief in the existence of?   
   >>> it doesn't take faith to not believe, but it takes faith to believe that   
   >>> a belief is correct/true. ie.. one has faith that ones belief is   
   >>> correct. Is it not so?   
   >> It is not so.   
   >>   
   >> It takes no faith not to believe in deities.   
   >>   
   >> It takes no faith to accept scientific evidence.   
   >>   
   >> It takes no faith to accept logical proofs.   
   >   
   >ok, prove there is no God. you can't.   
      
   I have no need to prove there are no deities. You demand that I make a   
   general proof of the negative, something you know cannot be done. Since   
   you implied about that you are atheist, why do you spend so much time   
   defending theism?   
      
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