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   On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:08:22 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:29:36 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 03:43:54 -0800, Jeanne Douglas    
   >>wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>In article <0qrqcalc1ofgv7gemh395qn40u3tofeiro@4ax.com>, mur wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:25:02 -0800, Jeanne Douglas    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>> >On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:45:42 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >>>> >   
   >>>> >>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:28:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist    
   wrote:   
   >>>> >>.   
   >>>> >>>In article ,   
   >>>> >>> felix_unger  wrote:   
   >>>> >>>   
   >>>> >>>> it takes faith to believe that God does not   
   >>>> >>>> exist   
   >>>> >>>   
   >>>> >>>Perhaps it does may faith to disbelieve in what a person has once   
   >>>> >>>believed in,   
   >>>> >>   
   >>>> >>    To disbelieve can mean to have no belief at all, but it can also   
   mean   
   >>>> >>    to   
   >>>> >>believe something is incorrect. That is very unfortunate imo, and   
   possibly   
   >>>> >>the   
   >>>> >>cause of some honest confustion...POSSIBLY.   
   >>>> >>   
   >>>> >>>but it takes no such faith not to believe in something one   
   >>>> >>>never has believed in.   
   >>>> >>   
   >>>> >>    To honestly have no belief requires considering the possibility that   
   >>>> >>something is correct as well as that it's not correct. You make it   
   clearly   
   >>>> >>obvious you can consider the possibility that God does not exist as   
   being   
   >>>> >>correct. Try to present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   >>>> >>possibility   
   >>>> >>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like to try   
   >>>> >>pretending   
   >>>> >>you honestly have no belief about it.   
   >>>> >   
   >>>> >Why?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Because unless you do it will remain clear that the only belief you're   
   >>>> capable of considering is the one but not any others. If you want to try   
   >>>> pretending you "have" no belief then you need to show that you can   
   consider   
   >>>> more   
   >>>> than just the ONE we know you DO consider.   
   >>>   
   >>>Care to translate that gibberish into English?   
   >>   
   >>    You can't do what I challenged you to do as I suspected, so you proved me   
   >>correct. You've apparently served your purpose as well and clearly as you are   
   >>able to.   
   >   
   >There are all sorts of things that I do not believe in because I know   
   >nothing of them.   
      
       The possibility of God's existence is not one of them so you changed the   
   subject because you're ashamed of it for some reason. WHY are you ashamed of   
   it,   
   don't you have any idea? Don't any of you have any idea? Why are you  people   
   not   
   only NOT proud of and attempting to defending your position, but are ashamed of   
   it and trying to squirm away from yourselves?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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