XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: abc@cef.ghi   
      
   In article , mur wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:12:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   > .   
   > >On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:29:33 -0500, mur wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:50:45 +0100, "thomas p."  wrote:   
   > >>.   
   > >>>"mur" skrev i meddelelsen   
   > >>>news:6qrqcals3qderjf3jg632rk94vphqehoh5@4ax.com...   
   > >>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:42:15 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist    
   > >>>> wrote:   
   > >>>> .   
   > >>>>>On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:45:42 -0500, mur wrote:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:28:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist    
   > >>>>>>wrote:   
   > >>>>>>.   
   > >>>>>>>In article ,   
   > >>>>>>> felix_unger  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> it takes faith to believe that God does not   
   > >>>>>>>> exist   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>Perhaps it does may faith to disbelieve in what a person has once   
   > >>>>>>>believed in,   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>    To disbelieve can mean to have no belief at all, but it can also   
   > >>>>>>    mean   
   > >>>>>> to   
   > >>>>>>believe something is incorrect. That is very unfortunate imo, and   
   > >>>>>>possibly the   
   > >>>>>>cause of some honest confustion...POSSIBLY.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>but it takes no such faith not to believe in something one   
   > >>>>>>>never has believed in.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>    To honestly have no belief requires considering the possibility   
   > >>>>>>    that   
   > >>>>>>something is correct as well as that it's not correct. You make it   
   > >>>>>>clearly   
   > >>>>>>obvious you can consider the possibility that God does not exist as   
   > >>>>>>being   
   > >>>>>>correct. Try to present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   > >>>>>>possibility   
   > >>>>>>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like to try   
   > >>>>>>pretending   
   > >>>>>>you honestly have no belief about it.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>There are all sorts of things that I have not yet heard about, and   
   > >>>>>doubtless will not hear about during my lifetime, about which I have no   
   > >>>>>beliefs whatsoever, having had no opportunity to form any beliefs about   
   > >>>>>them!   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>    The possibility of there being a God associated with this planet has   
   > >>>> nothing   
   > >>>> to do with what you just wussiley mentioned   
   > >>>   
   > >>>You did not limit your comment about belief to belief in a god,   
   > >>   
   > >>    "Try to present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   > >>    possibility   
   > >>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like to try   
   > >>pretending   
   > >>you honestly have no belief about it."   
   > >   
   > >Babies start with no beliefs in any gods,   
   > >and the lucky ones REMAIN uncorrupted!   
   >   
   > If there is no God associated with this planet, which is a   
   > possibility I take into consideration, then I agree with you even   
   > though you wussed away from what I pointed out. But if there is a God   
   > associated with this planet, which is another possibility I take into   
   > consideration, then I have no reason to agree with you because you   
   > don't have any idea whether you're correct or whether you're not. As   
   > yet I have no reason to put complete faith in either of the above   
   > mentioned possibilities being correct, much MUCH less do I have any   
   > reason to put faith in your guess being correct.   
      
   I do not reject the possibility, merely the certainty!   
   In either direction!   
      
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   alt.agnosticism, which I support.   
      
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