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   On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:59:49 -0700, A Nony Mouse wrote:   
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   >In article , mur wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:12:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist wrote:   
   >> .   
   >> >On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:29:33 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >>On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:50:45 +0100, "thomas p." wrote:   
   >> >>.   
   >> >>>"mur" skrev i meddelelsen   
   >> >>>news:6qrqcals3qderjf3jg632rk94vphqehoh5@4ax.com...   
   >> >>>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:42:15 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist    
   >> >>>> wrote:   
   >> >>>> .   
   >> >>>>>On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:45:42 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:28:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist    
   >> >>>>>>wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>.   
   >> >>>>>>>In article ,   
   >> >>>>>>> felix_unger wrote:   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>> it takes faith to believe that God does not   
   >> >>>>>>>> exist   
   >> >>>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>Perhaps it does may faith to disbelieve in what a person has once   
   >> >>>>>>>believed in,   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> To disbelieve can mean to have no belief at all, but it can also   
   >> >>>>>> mean   
   >> >>>>>> to   
   >> >>>>>>believe something is incorrect. That is very unfortunate imo, and   
   >> >>>>>>possibly the   
   >> >>>>>>cause of some honest confustion...POSSIBLY.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>>>but it takes no such faith not to believe in something one   
   >> >>>>>>>never has believed in.   
   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> To honestly have no belief requires considering the possibility   
   >> >>>>>> that   
   >> >>>>>>something is correct as well as that it's not correct. You make it   
   >> >>>>>>clearly   
   >> >>>>>>obvious you can consider the possibility that God does not exist as   
   >> >>>>>>being   
   >> >>>>>>correct. Try to present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   >> >>>>>>possibility   
   >> >>>>>>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like to try   
   >> >>>>>>pretending   
   >> >>>>>>you honestly have no belief about it.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>>There are all sorts of things that I have not yet heard about, and   
   >> >>>>>doubtless will not hear about during my lifetime, about which I have no   
   >> >>>>>beliefs whatsoever, having had no opportunity to form any beliefs about   
   >> >>>>>them!   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>> The possibility of there being a God associated with this planet has   
   >> >>>> nothing   
   >> >>>> to do with what you just wussiley mentioned   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>You did not limit your comment about belief to belief in a god,   
   >> >>   
   >> >> "Try to present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   >> >> possibility   
   >> >>that God does exist as being correct, if you really would like to try   
   >> >>pretending   
   >> >>you honestly have no belief about it."   
   >> >   
   >> >Babies start with no beliefs in any gods,   
   >> >and the lucky ones REMAIN uncorrupted!   
   >>   
   >> If there is no God associated with this planet, which is a   
   >> possibility I take into consideration, then I agree with you even   
   >> though you wussed away from what I pointed out. But if there is a God   
   >> associated with this planet, which is another possibility I take into   
   >> consideration, then I have no reason to agree with you because you   
   >> don't have any idea whether you're correct or whether you're not. As   
   >> yet I have no reason to put complete faith in either of the above   
   >> mentioned possibilities being correct, much MUCH less do I have any   
   >> reason to put faith in your guess being correct.   
   >   
   >I do not reject the possibility, merely the certainty!   
   >In either direction!   
   >   
   >The first newsgroup listed for the distribution of these posting is   
   >alt.agnosticism, which I support.   
      
    I'm a weak agnostic. Are you familiar with the distinction between a weak   
   agnostic and a strong one? How about a weak atheist and a strong one?   
      
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