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On 12/26/2011 6:56 PM, Elliot Lake wrote:
> walt tonne wrote:
>> On Dec 26, 3:03 pm, Sordo wrote:
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>>> Bernhard Goetz's victim dies on anniversary of shooting
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>>> By Jordana Ossad, CNN
>>> updated 7:15 PM EST, Fri December 23, 2011
>>> New York (CNN)
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>>> One of four victims injured nearly three decades ago by Bernhard
>>> Goetz, a man New Yorkers once dubbed "the subway vigilante," has been
>>> found dead, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation.
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>>> James Ramseur, 45, was found Thursday, exactly 27 years to the day
>>> after a controversial subway shooting catapulted him and the others
>>> into the national spotlight, highlighting strained race relations and
>>> fears of widespread crime in New York City during the 1980s.
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>>> Ramseur was found unconscious in a Bronx motel room by motel staff
>>> members.
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>>> The cause of his death was not immediately clear.
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>>> Since that infamous 1984 shooting, Ramseur had a largely troubled
>>> life, having been convicted on rape and robbery charges. He was
>>> sentenced in 1986 for those crimes, and served 25 years behind bars,
>>> according to the state's Department of Corrections and Community
>>> Supervision website.
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>>> "It's always sad when someone takes their own life," said former New
>>> York Mayor Ed Koch, who was in office at the time of the shooting.
>>> Koch's comment was an apparent reference to media reports that say
>>> Ramseur died of a drug overdose.
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>>> CNN cannot independently confirm that account.
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>>> Goetz shot Ramseur and three other African-American teenagers on
>>> December 22,1984, aboard a Manhattan subway car.
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>>> The four victims said they were panhandling for money to play video
>>> games and had asked Goetz for $5.
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>>> Goetz, a white man, testified that he felt threatened and thought he
>>> was being robbed, and he fired several rounds into the youths.
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>>> A jury acquitted Goetz of murder and assault charges in the shooting,
>>> but convicted him of illegal possession of a weapon. He served just
>>> over eight months behind bars.
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>>> Lawsuits filed against Goetz were initially dismissed. But in 1996, a
>>> jury awarded Darrell Cabey -- who was paralyzed in the shooting -- $43
>>> million for his injuries. A judge later ruled that Goetz, who had
>>> filed for bankruptcy, was still liable to pay the sum.
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>>> The shooting garnered national attention and came during a period of
>>> high crime in New York, said Mitchell Moss, professor of urban policy
>>> and planning at New York University.
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>>> The city's crime levels peaked in 1990, noted Moss, when more than
>>> 2,200 homicides were reported across the five boroughs.
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>>> As of Thursday, police reported that the city's 2011 numbers tallied
>>> less than 500.
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>>> "We really had a city out of control" during the 1980s, Moss told CNN.
>>> "New Yorkers were living in an environment in which they had really
>>> become accustomed to a high level of crime, some of this due to the
>>> crack cocaine epidemic, the economy and the shrinking of the police
>>> department."
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>>> Some observers view the Goetz shooting as a low point in relations
>>> between blacks and whites in New York.
>>> ___
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>>> "Proud To Be Everything Liberals Hate"
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>> Goetz is a hero.
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> Goetz is a hero to you, but if he had killed white women and children
> like Timothy McVeigh or the guy who shot Gabriel Giffords, he would
> have been a hero too. That's because you're a weak, stupid imbecile
> from shit stain Arizona who hates people, including your fellow
> Americans and like our radical Muslim enemies, sees the killing of
> Americans as a good thing.
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Goetz is a hero. He shot people who had it coming. You just don't like
White people because you are
jealous and a loser in life.
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