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   From: nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz   
      
   Mr. Black wrote:   
   >   
   > Thomas Hobbes of Malmesbury (5 April 1588 - 4 December 1679),   
   > in some older texts Thomas Hobbs of Malmsbury, was an English   
   > philosopher, best known today for his work on political   
   > philosophy. His 1651 book Leviathan established the foundation   
   > for most of Western political philosophy from the perspective   
   > of social contract theory.   
   >   
   > Hobbes was a champion of absolutism for the sovereign but he   
   > also developed  some of the fundamentals of European liberal   
   > thought: the right of the individual; the natural equality   
   > of all men; the artificial character of the  political order   
   > (which led to the later distinction between civil society and   
   > the state); the view that all legitimate political power must   
   > be  "representative" and based on the consent of the people;   
   > and a liberal interpretation of law which leaves people free   
   > to do whatever the law does  not explicitly forbid.   
   >   
   > He was one of the founders of modern political philosophy.[4]   
      
   And just what does "[4]" refer to?   
      
   > His understanding of humans as being matter and motion, obeying   
      
   "Conforming to", idiot.   
      
   > the same physical laws as other matter and motion, remains   
   > influential;   
      
   Carl Sagan said it better: "We are matter, become self-aware".   
      
   > and his account of human nature as self-interested cooperation,   
   > and of political communities as  being based upon a "social   
   > contract" remains one of the major topics of  political philosophy.   
   >   
   > In addition to political philosophy, Hobbes also contributed   
   > to a diverse  array of other fields, including history,   
   > geometry, the physics of gases, theology, ethics, and general   
   > philosophy and is considered by most to be 50 times as   
   > intelligent as any contemporary radical right wing facist   
   > racist  republican gun worshiping pig today.   
      
   Several hundred times as intelligent as you, then.   
      
   > He believed that boorish, Fox News addicted right wing clowns   
   > deserved to be in chains along with the Thomas Sowell type   
   > niggers that worked their fields.   
      
   Don't lie, you idiot. He never met one, and never predicted   
   their existence.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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