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|    BeamMeUpScotty to Ubiquitous    |
|    Re: LIES, MORE LIES, AND DAMN LIES from     |
|    24 Dec 20 12:02:05    |
      From: NOT-SURE@ideocracy.gov              On 12/23/20 10:51 PM, Ubiquitous wrote:       > Fox News personality Bill O’Reilly, host of the highest-rated show in       > cable news, is under fire for reasons that are drawing comparisons to       > Brian Williams’ recent troubles. In case you haven’t had the time or       > inclination to sort through all the back-and-forth, here’s a simple guide       > to this affair.       >       > * The basic charge — that O’Reilly exaggerated his record covering war       —       > is true.       >       > It all started with this article by David Corn and Daniel Schulman       > published in Mother Jones on Thursday, in which they detailed how on many       > occasions over the years, O’Reilly has characterized himself as a veteran       > of war reporting. Among the quotes they cited are times when O’Reilly said       > things like “I’ve reported on the ground in active war zones from El       > Salvador to the Falklands,” and “having survived a combat situation in       > Argentina during the Falklands war, I know that life-and-death decisions       > are made in a flash,” and “I was in a situation one time, in a war zone       in       > Argentina, in the Falklands…” That O’Reilly said these things is not in       > question. But in fact, O’Reilly was never in the Falklands, and he never       > reported from any “combat situation.”       >       > * O’Reilly’s defense of his original false statements is itself built on       > one falsehood and a bunch of claims that are questionable at best.       >       > O’Reilly insists that everything he has said is true, because when he was       > working for CBS News he reported on a violent protest in Buenos Aires       > around the time of the Falklands war, and that constitutes a “combat       > situation” in a “war zone.” That part of the claim is absurd on its       face;       > if covering a protest over a thousand miles away from where a war is being       > fought constitutes being in a “combat zone,” then that would mean that       any       > reporter who covered an anti-war protest in Washington during the Iraq War       > was doing combat reporting.       >       > Then there’s the matter of the protest itself. O’Reilly asserts that       > Argentine soldiers were “gunning people down in the streets” as evidence       > of how combat-esque the scene was; he wrote in one of his books that “many       > were killed.” But neither the story that CBS ran that evening nor any       > contemporaneous reporting mentions anyone being killed. The Post’s Erik       > Wemple has tried to substantiate O’Reilly’s claim, and been unable to do       > so. Former CBS reporters who were O’Reilly’s colleagues at the time have       > also disputed his description of the protest, which was certainly violent,       > but as far as we know, not actually deadly. But even if everything       > O’Reilly said about that protest was true, it wouldn’t mean that he had       > seen combat.       >       > * O’Reilly can’t admit that he was wrong.       >       > To the surprise of no one who is familiar with his modus operandi,       > O’Reilly has responded to the evidence against him with a stream of       > invective against anyone who contradicts him. He called David Corn a       > “guttersnipe liar,” and called CNN’s Brian Stelter, a media reporter       whose       > sin was merely discussing this story, a “far-left zealot.” When a       reporter       > from the New York Times called to get his comments on the story, he told       > her that if the article she wrote didn’t meet with his approval, he would       > retaliate against her. “I am coming after you with everything I have,” he       > said. “You can take it as a threat.”       >       > So why not just say, “I may have mischaracterized things a few times” and       > move on? To understand why that’s impossible, you have to understand       > O’Reilly’s persona and the function he serves for his viewers. The       central       > theme of The O’Reilly Factor is that the true America, represented by the       > elderly whites who make up his audience (the median age of his viewers is       > 72) is in an unending war with the forces of liberalism, secularism, and       > any number of other isms. Bill O’Reilly is a four-star general in that       > war, and the only way to win is to fight.       >       > The allegedly liberal media are one of the key enemies in that war. You       > don’t negotiate with your enemies, you fight them. And so when O’Reilly       is       > being criticized by the media, to admit that they might have a point would       > be to betray everything he stands for and that he has told his viewers       > night after night for the better part of two decades.       >       > * The truth of the charges against him won’t matter.       >       > Brian Williams got suspended from NBC News because his bosses feared that       > his tall tales had cost him credibility with his audience, which could       > lead that audience to go elsewhere for their news. O’Reilly and his boss,       > Fox News chief Roger Ailes, are not worried about damage to Bill       > O’Reilly’s credibility, or about his viewers deserting him. Their loyalty       > to him isn’t based on a spotless record of factual accuracy; it’s based       on       > the fact that O’Reilly is a medium for their anger and resentments.       >       > Night after night, he yells about the “pinheads” and other liberals who       > are destroying this great country, saying the things his viewers wish they       > could say and sticking it to the people they hate. If anything, this       > episode proves that the media are out to get him, and he has to stay       > strong and keep standing up to them.       >       > * This is another demonstration of the inherent problem with the       > conservative media bubble.       > -       > Fox built its brand not just by convincing conservatives that it was a       > great place for them to get their news, but by telling them that the rest       > of the media can’t be trusted, so you almost have to get your news from       > Fox. In the last couple of years, however, what seemed like a great       > success of institution-building (including Fox and other media outlets)       > has begun to look less like a strength of the conservative movement and       > more like a liability. This was vividly illustrated in November 2012, when       > Republicans up to and including Mitt Romney convinced themselves that it       > was just impossible that the American electorate would grant Barack Obama       > a second term. Within that bubble, Obama was a failed president all right-       > thinking Americans rejected, and so he would of course lose badly on       > election day; they were genuinely shocked when the election turned out the       > way it did.       >       > I haven’t yet seen any conservatives arguing that Bill O’Reilly is right,       > and that covering a violent protest 1,200 miles from a place where a war              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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