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   Re: Science Is Lies - A Big Socialist Co   
   28 Apr 10 13:55:50   
   
   XPost: sci.environment   
   From: "Z@   
      
   Would You Buy A Used Car From These So-Called "Scientists"?   
      
      
      
   Our gullible alarmist friends have obviously fallen for this scam hook,   
   line, and sinker!   
      
      
      
   First we had the IPCC report "The Science of Climate Change 1995", where   
   lead auther Benjamin D. Santer removed the following conclusions made by   
   genuine scientists, and without the scientists being made aware of this   
   change.   
      
      
      
   "None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can   
   attribute the observed climate changes to the specific cause of increases in   
   greenhouse gases."   
      
      
      
   "No study to date has positively attributed all or part [of the climate   
   change observed to date] to anthropogenic [man-made] causes."   
      
      
      
   "Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely   
   to remain controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability   
   of the climate system are reduced."   
      
      
      
   Then we have some choice quotes from so-called "consensus scientists".   
      
      
      
   "Next time I see Pat Michaels at a scientific meeting, I'll be tempted to   
   beat the crap out of him."   
      
   Ben Santer, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory   
      
   [Referring to global warming skeptic Pat Michaels]   
      
      
      
   "The two MMs [Canadian skeptics Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick] have been   
   after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom   
   of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than   
   send to anyone."   
      
   Phil Jones email, Feb 2 2005   
      
      
      
   "I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report, Kevin and   
   I will keep them out somehow, even if we have to redefine what the   
   peer-review literature is!"   
      
   Phil Jones Director, The CRU   
      
   [cutting skeptical scientists out of an official UN report]   
      
      
      
   "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment,   
   and it is a travesty that we can't .there should be even more warming... the   
   data are surely wrong".   
      
   Kevin Trenberth, Climatologist, US Centre for Atmospheric Research   
      
      
      
   "...If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the   
   science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn't   
   being political, it is being selfish. "   
      
   Phil Jones Director, The CRU   
      
      
      
   "We have to get rid of the Mediæval Warm Period" Confided to geophysicist   
   David Deming by the IPCC, 1995   
      
   [Many believe that man to be Jonathan Overpeck, which Prof. Deming didn't   
   deny in an email response, who would later also serve as an IPCC lead   
   author.]   
      
      
      
   "We have 25 years or so invested in the work. Why should I make the data   
   available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it?"   
   Phil Jones Director, The CRU   
      
      
      
   "I tried the same run [Fourier Transform] on the CRU global temperature set.   
   Even though CRU must be highly smoothed by the time all the averages are   
   worked out, the 11-year pulse is still there, albeit about half the size of   
   Sydney's."   
      
   [E-mail from Dr Daly 9 August 1996. Dr Daly uncovered an eleven-year signal   
   in the temperature data set from the island of Tasmania. It is clear from   
   the tone of his e-mail that he knows this is not welcome news.]   
      
      
      
   "I was at the table with three Europeans, and we were having lunch. And they   
   were talking about their role as lead authors for the IPCC. And they were   
   talking about how they were trying to make the report so dramatic that the   
   US would just have to sign that Kyoto Protocol."   
      
   Dr John Christy, University of Alabama, Huntsville on CNN May 2 2007.   
      
      
      
   "We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements,   
   and make little mention of any doubts we might have." Professor Stephen   
   Schneider   
      
      
      
   "Humans need a common motivation ... either a real one or else one invented   
   for the purpose. ... In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up   
   with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages,   
   famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by   
   human intervention so the real enemy then, is humanity itself." Club of Rome   
   declaration   
      
      
      
   "It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is   
   true.... You are what the media define you to be. Greenpeace became a myth   
   and fund generating machine." Paul Watson, Co-Founder Greenpeace, Forbes,   
   Nov. 1991   
      
      
      
   Now what conclusion would a rational and sceptical person come to?   
      
      
      
   Frederick Seitz, president emeritus of Rockefeller University and chairman   
   of the George C. Marshall Institute, summed it up nicely after seeing the   
   changes made to the IPCC report.   
      
      
      
   "In my more than 60 years as a member of the American scientific community,   
   including service as president of both the National Academy of Sciences and   
   the American Physical Society, I have never witnessed a more disturbing   
   corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC   
   report."   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   Warmest Regards   
      
      
      
   Bon_0   
      
      
      
   "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps   
   US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists   
   worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct   
   from natural variation."   
      
   Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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