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   If you didn't put such stupid shit in the subject line, you might actually   
   have a hope of reaching someone with this stuff.   
   Or do you get scared when you're not preaching to the choir.   
      
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   "The Right is wrong, the Left is stupid."   
      
   "You do realize that the people in charge would rather you just die, don't   
   you?   
      
      
      
   "Clay"  wrote in message   
   news:Xns9DF3AEA68500D4466gfdsfs@94.75.214.39...   
   > The radical right wing fringe media fills their pea sized brains with lies   
   > and propaganda, leading them around by the nose like the imbeciles   
   > everyone knows they are!   
   >   
   > On Friday, Media Matters.org published an article titled, "Myths and   
   > falsehoods surrounding the Christmas Day terrorist attack"  to set the   
   > record straight, in answer to the media blitz by Republicans,   
   > Conservatives, and the Right-Wing media following the failed terrorist   
   > attempt by the Underwear Bomber on Christmas Day.   
   >   
   > By simply showing the facts, it reveals the hypocrisy and out-and-out lies   
   > that continues to seep out of the mouths of the Right, who somehow think   
   > that actual history won't prove them wrong. They think that if they say   
   > their lies enough times they will somehow re-write history. Realistically   
   > though, in the minds of other conservatives, those who don't listen, read,   
   > or believe any reporting or commentary other than that produced by the   
   > Right, the conservative media will have accomplished its goal. The goal is   
   > to make President Obama look weak, support the river of lies coming from   
   > Dick and Liz Cheney, and to change the Bush record.   
   >   
   > What follows, is a summary of those myths and lies promulgated by the   
   > Right, who since the election of a Democratic president, have circled   
   > their wagons in an anything-goes, truth-be-damned campaign to smear the   
   > President, and hopefully evict him from the White House.   
   >   
   > Myth #1: Trying Abdulmutallab in civilian court will endanger U.S.   
   > security.   
   >   
   > This is a myth that is supposedly supported by the outrageous claim that   
   > civilian trials for terrorists is "the reason 9-11 happened." This false   
   > claim was repeated last week by Dick Morris, the same man who was Bill   
   > Clinton's campaign manager for his re-election bid in 1996. The same man   
   > who let a prostitute listen in on private phone conversations with   
   > President Clinton. Suddenly Dick Morris is concerned with the security of   
   > our nation. I guess he is much more security conscious when he is not   
   > engaged in purchased sex.   
   >   
   > DICK MORRIS: "[T]he reason 9-11 happened is that Bill Clinton treated the   
   > '93 bombing of the Trade Center as a crime, not as an act of war." [Fox   
   > News' Hannity, 1/4/10]   
   >   
   > This claim was also put out their by the queen of Facebook politics, Sarah   
   > Palin. And why? Because of that sticky little thing called the Miranda   
   > rights. It did not get into the way of convicting the 1993 World Trade   
   > Center Bombers, or the Shoe Bomber during the Bush Administration, but   
   > still Sarah prefers to torture people in Guantanamo where our laws don't   
   > get in the way.   
   >   
   > SARAH PALIN: Obama's "fundamental approach to terrorism is fatally flawed"   
   > and "treating this threat as a law enforcement issue is dangerous for our   
   > nation's security. That's what happened in the 1990s and we saw the result   
   > on September 11, 2001." [Facebook, 1/5/10]   
   >   
   > Media Matters.org response:   
   >   
   > REALITY: Holder testified that claim is based on "factual inaccuracies,"   
   > "mis-information." While Morris and Palin did not explain their claims,   
   > Sean Hannity suggested on December 11 that Osama bin Laden was "tipped   
   > off" by the trial of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and his guest   
   > Andrew McCarthy responded that bin Laden was "certainly tipped off" by   
   > being included on a list of co-conspirators that was turned over to the   
   > defense during those trials [Hannity, 12/11/09]. In fact, during a   
   > November 18, 2009, Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Attorney General   
   > Eric Holder testified that there was "mis-information with regard to this   
   > whole question of this co-conspirator list" because the list was "not a   
   > classified document," but prosecutors "could have sought a protective   
   > order" to stop its release.   
   >   
   > MYTH #2: Bush did not try terrorism suspects in civilian court.   
   >   
   > The claim by Steve Doocy, on Fox News, that trying Abdulmutallab in   
   > civilian court "takes us back to the days of the Clinton administration,   
   > when things like this were treated as a law enforcement issue, and not as   
   > a national security issue." [Fox News' Fox & Friends, 1/4/09]   
   >   
   > Media Matters.org response:   
   >   
   > REALITY: The Bush administration tried several terrorist suspects in   
   > civilian court, including the shoe bomber and Moussaoui. Indeed, Zacarias   
   > Moussaoui was charged in civilian court, pled guilty and was sentenced by   
   > a jury to life in prison for his role in the September 11, 2001, terrorist   
   > attacks after the jury declined to give him the death penalty, and shoe   
   > bomber Richard Reid -- who reportedly claimed he was a member of Al Qaeda   
   > -- is serving a life sentence in a Colorado prison for "trying to blow up   
   > a trans-Atlantic flight with explosives concealed in his shoes" after   
   > being charged in civilian court and pleading guilty. Moreover, in May   
   > 2009, Slate.com reported that according to data from the U.S. Bureau of   
   > Prisons, "federal facilities on American soil currently house 216   
   > international terrorists and 139 domestic terrorists."   
   >   
   > MYTH #3: Obama waited an unprecedented amount of time before discussing   
   > the attack.   
   >   
   > The claim that Obama waited too long before speaking about the Christmas   
   > Day terrorist attempt is a matter of opinion, but the fact that this is   
   > being put forward by Karl Rove, former Bush Advisor is ludicrous. It is   
   > another example of the short memory of conservatives.   
   >   
   > KARL ROVE: "First of all, I think it was a mistake for the president to   
   > have the incident happen on Christmas and for him not to be heard from for   
   > four days. The White House sent out its people to spin the press in that   
   > they were trying to reassure the American people. Well, I don't understand   
   > why keeping the president off the stage and then not having him explain it   
   > for four days is supposed to reassure us." [Hannity, 1/5/10]   
   >   
   > This myth was also put out there by Fox News talking-heads Steve Doocy and   
   > Brian Kilmeade, but based on Fox's dismal record of truthful reporting,   
   > one would expect nothing less.   
   >   
   > Media Matters.org response:   
   >   
   > REALITY: Bush waited six days before responding to 2001 shoe bomber   
   > attack. On December 22, 2001, after Reid attempted to light a fuse in his   
      
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