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|    Re: global warming "science" A PACK OF L    |
|    22 Oct 10 12:28:22    |
      XPost: alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now, alt.religion.c       ristian.last-days, alt.global-warming       From: tiet@SUV.com              YEP!                                          JUDGE THESE "SCIENTISTS" BY THEIR ACTIONS!                            First we had the IPCC report "The Science of Climate Change 1995", where       lead author Benjamin D. Santer removed the following conclusions made by       genuine scientists, and without the scientists being made aware of these       changes.                            "None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can       attribute the observed climate changes to the specific cause of increases in       greenhouse gases."                            "No study to date has positively attributed all or part [of the climate       change observed to date] to anthropogenic [man-made] causes."                            "Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely       to remain controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability       of the climate system are reduced."                                          Then we have some choice quotes from so-called "consensus scientists".                            "Next time I see Pat Michaels at a scientific meeting, I'll be tempted to       beat the crap out of him."              Ben Santer, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory              [Referring to global warming skeptic Pat Michaels]                            "I've just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each       series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for       Keith's to hide the decline."              Phil Jones email, 16 Nov 1999                            "The two MMs [Canadian skeptics Steve McIntyre and Ross McKitrick] have been       after the CRU station data for years. If they ever hear there is a Freedom       of Information Act now in the UK, I think I'll delete the file rather than       send to anyone."              Phil Jones email, Feb 2 2005                            "I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report, Kevin and       I will keep them out somehow, even if we have to redefine what the       peer-review literature is!"              Phil Jones Director, The CRU              [cutting skeptical scientists out of an official UN report]                            "The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment,       and it is a travesty that we can't .there should be even more warming... the       data are surely wrong".              Kevin Trenberth, Climatologist, US Centre for Atmospheric Research                            "...If anything, I would like to see the climate change happen, so the       science could be proved right, regardless of the consequences. This isn't       being political, it is being selfish. "              Phil Jones Director, The CRU                            "We have to get rid of the Mediæval Warm Period" Confided to geophysicist       David Deming by the IPCC, 1995              [Many believe that man to be Jonathan Overpeck, which Prof. Deming didn't       deny in an email response, who would later also serve as an IPCC lead       author.]                            "We have 25 years or so invested in the work. Why should I make the data       available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it?"       Phil Jones Director, The CRU                            "I tried the same run [Fourier Transform] on the CRU global temperature set.       Even though CRU must be highly smoothed by the time all the averages are       worked out, the 11-year pulse is still there, albeit about half the size of       Sydney's."              [E-mail from Dr Daly 9 August 1996. Dr Daly uncovered an eleven-year signal       in the temperature data set from the island of Tasmania. It is clear from       the tone of his e-mail that he considers this obvious solar influence on       climate as unwelcome news.]                            "I was at the table with three Europeans, and we were having lunch. And they       were talking about their role as lead authors for the IPCC. And they were       talking about how they were trying to make the report so dramatic that the       US would just have to sign that Kyoto Protocol."              Dr John Christy, University of Alabama, Huntsville on CNN May 2 2007.                            "We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements,       and make little mention of any doubts we might have." Professor Stephen       Schneider                            "Humans need a common motivation ... either a real one or else one invented       for the purpose. ... In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up       with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages,       famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by       human intervention so the real enemy then, is humanity itself." Club of Rome       declaration                            "It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is       true.... You are what the media define you to be. Greenpeace became a myth       and fund generating machine." Paul Watson, Co-Founder Greenpeace, Forbes,       Nov. 1991                            Now what conclusion would a rational and sceptical person come to?                            Frederick Seitz, president emeritus of Rockefeller University and chairman       of the George C. Marshall Institute, summed it up nicely after seeing the       changes made to the IPCC report.                            "In my more than 60 years as a member of the American scientific community,       including service as president of both the National Academy of Sciences and       the American Physical Society, I have never witnessed a more disturbing       corruption of the peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC       report."                                                        Warmest Regards                            B0nz0                            "It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps       US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists       worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct       from natural variation."              Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville                            "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you       have, or how many of you there are, and certainly not how many papers your       side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is       wrong. Period."              Professor Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics                            "A core problem is that science has given way to ideology. The scientific       method has been dispensed with, or abused, to serve the myth of man-made       global warming."              "The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips                            "Computer models are built in an almost backwards fashion: The goal is to       show evidence of AGW, and the "scientists" go to work to produce such a       result. When even these models fail to show what advocates want, the data       and interpretations are "fudged" to bring about the desired result"              "The World Turned Upside Down", Melanie Phillips                            "Ocean acidification looks suspiciously like a back-up plan by the       environmental pressure groups in case the climate fails to warm: another try       at condemning fossil fuels!"              http://www.rationaloptimist.com/blog/threat-ocean-acidification-       reatly-exaggerated                            Before attacking hypothetical problems, let us first solve the real problems       that threaten humanity. One single water pump at an equivalent cost of a       couple of solar panels can indeed spare hundreds of Sahel women the daily       journey to the spring and spare many infections and lives.              Martin De Vlieghere, philosopher                                   [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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