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   Message 17,722 of 18,602   
   Michael Dobony to Eric Gisin   
   Re: Florida School Shooter Largely Influ   
   17 Dec 10 09:54:23   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.scientology.xenu, alt.conspiracy.new-world-order   
   From: survey@stopassaultnow.net   
      
   On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:53:36 +0000 (UTC), Eric Gisin wrote:   
      
   > Florida School Shooter Largely Influenced By Right Wing Fascist Beliefs.   
   >   
   > Clay Duke, the unemployed and apparently bipolar anarchist who shot up a   
   > Panama City, Florida, school board on Tuesday openly admired many ideas   
   > that are popular among  republicans and teafascists. While some have   
   > alleged that he was really mentally ill (he was actually on his   
   > medication, so there goes that excuse for his personal actions right   
   > there) or have even tried to blame inanimate objects like the Bush-   
   > recession  with all its high unemployment for his destructive action, if   
   > you look at all the evidence of what shaped Duke's thinking, it can be   
   > traced exclusively to rightist fascism. In the end, everyone's responsible   
   > for their own actions, and Duke's motivation for holding up the Florida   
   > school board seems to have been a veritable checklist of radical right   
   > wing beliefs.   
   >   
   > It always annoys me when someone turns out to be a killer or causes a lot   
   > of damage that the basic, human reaction is to automatically blame mental   
   > illness or "craziness." I believe that every human being is ultimately   
   > responsible for his or her own actions, so I reject this cop-out   
   > completely when it comes to Duke. If you dig into Duke's background, you   
   > will find it impossible to actually separate hardcore  right wing fascist   
   > beliefs from his, in the end, destructive action. His action of shooting   
   > at the school board members and then killing himself without honor (after   
   > a security guard had already dumped three shots into his back) was said by   
   > his widow to be because of the economy and "the world." Of course that's   
   > bull, and you'll see what I mean right now.   
   >   
   > According to his Facebook page (who knew Facebook was so popular that even   
   > attempting murderers use it to tell the world a little something about   
   > themselves?!), he was a Fox News / Limbaugh listener. Let's look at what   
   > fascism is, briefly. In a nutshell, fascism is the arrogant belief system   
   > that utterly rejects religion as the basis of morality.  Fascists   
   > basically believe that without God, human beings can still be innately   
   > moral or ethical; this is nonsense, of course, since from where but   
   > religion do morals really come? Because of its arrogance, Fascism counts a   
   > lot of  rightists as its adherents. Just a few examples are Sean Hannity,   
   > Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Friedrich Hayek, all of whom we can safely   
   > agree are despicable people. I think that Duke basically showed the world   
   > that fascists right wing pigs who hate God.   
   >   
   > Next, Duke was also a fan of the movie "V for Vendetta." Anyone remember   
   > that film from a few years back? Well, guess what, if you were a right   
   > wing fascist, you probably loved it. According to its author, its author   
   > (the movie was based on a graphic novel), the movie was an "American right   
   > wing fantasy about someone with American NeoCon values standing up against   
   > a state run by normal people.  " If you're a conservative, that's pretty   
   > darn damning for you because there is now a connection between violent   
   > shooters and a movie like "V for Vendetta" that espouses a lot of angry   
   > right wing gunloon values.   
   >   
   > Glenn Beck warned his followers about going on bizerk shooting sprees.   
   > Basically, it entails that righgt wing radicals (Republicans, Libertarians   
   > & Muslims) in a government (such as those we know were in Bush's   
   > government) continually anger and provoke the ignorant right wing masses,   
   > of which Duke was a part, by feeding them class warfare propaganda and the   
   > like. Then, they finally snap and do violent and radical acts, which Duke   
   > certainly did, which is when the so-called top (government) comes down to   
   > control citizens all the more.   Blame Bush and the Patriot Act.   
   >   
   > In conclusion, while apologists can always shift the blame to Obama when   
   > in reality it's the Republicans under Bush, Duke's "stress,"    I think   
   > most of the evidence points to weak minded rightist beliefs for motivating   
   > Duke to snap. After all, how can you explain that major tenets of these   
   > ideologies were centrally present in his values system before he started   
   > up his little rampage?   
      
   Another childish bully tactic. I suppose you blame Obama's $4 trillion   
   contribution to the deficit to Bush?   
      
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