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   Message 17,868 of 18,602   
   Jerry Okamura to All   
   Re: Stern: Climate change deniers are Me   
   03 Apr 11 05:30:23   
   
   XPost: talk.politics.crypto, alt.flame.rednecks, alt.flame.right   
   wing-conservatives   
   From: okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com   
      
   If you believe in the Global Warming Theory, what should be done to prevent   
   the event from happening?  Can you prevent the event from happening when not   
   all countries are doing their share?   
      
   "Edwin"  wrote in message news:Xns9EBC2CD8E678chang@194.177.98.144...   
      
   I notice most of you idiots can't even hold down a job, you live off the   
   avails of working taxpayers.   
      
   Stern: Climate change deniers are 'flat-earthers'   
      
   Economist Nicholas Stern warns of 'absolute lunacy' of do-nothing approach   
   of Czech president Václav Klaus and fellow climate change sceptics   
      
      
   Climate change deniers are "ridiculous" and akin to "flat-earthers",   
   according to Sir Nicholas Stern, who advised the government about the   
   economic threat posed by global warming. The respected economist compared   
   climate naysayers to those who deny the link between smoking and cancer or   
   HIV and Aids in the face of mounting scientific evidence.   
      
   Stern — who prepared his influential report to the UK Treasury in 2007 at   
   Gordon Brown's request — said the evidence that human-induced climate   
   change was occurring was "crystal clear".   
      
   "If you look at all the serious scientists in the world, there is no big   
   disagreement on the basics of this ... it would be absolute lunacy to act   
   as if climate change is not occurring," he said.   
      
   His comments came in response to news that the Czech president Václav   
   Klaus would this week attend a New York conference of climate change   
   naysayers from around the world. Stern said Klaus was "totally confused on   
   this issue" and liked to "gather rather confused people around him".   
      
   The US-based Heartland Institute, which had been funded by Exxon Mobil   
   until 2006, launched its gathering of more than 70 participants in an   
   event entitled 'Global warming: Was it ever really a crisis?'   
      
   Lord Stern addressed a large conference in London yesterday, organised by   
   the Department for International Development, where he said the battle   
   against poverty and the management of climate change were the "two great   
   challenges of the 21st century ".   
      
   "We know that greenhouse gases are rising. And we know the [global]   
   temperature is rising. We can look back through ice-core data and see over   
   800,000 years, relationships between carbon dioxide and the temperature of   
   the world," he told the Guardian.   
      
   "So those people who deny the importance of climate change are just   
   wasting their time. They're also being diversionary because if we don't   
   act the risks are enormous."   
      
   Asked if the public debate on the issue was being won, he said: "Those who   
   say that climate change doesn't exist are being understood as the   
   flat-earthers that they are, as the people who deny the link between   
   smoking and cancer, as the people who denied the link between HIV and   
   AIDS.   
      
   "They are marginal and they are ridiculous. And they are very confused."   
      
   He admitted that while some time still had to be spent dealing with "the   
   silly arguments that [deniers] put", discussions around the world had   
   moved on and were focused on the details of "reducing emissions and   
   managing the impact of climate change".   
      
   His comments will be bolstered this week by President Barack Obama's   
   directive that American government agencies should pick advisers based on   
   expertise, not political ideology. The move was hailed by scientists who   
   felt the previous administration had filled agencies with supporters who   
   shared George Bush's scepticism about climate change.   
      
   In 2007 a US committee on oversight and government reform published a   
   report documenting systematic efforts "to censor climate scientists by   
   controlling their access to the press and editing testimony to Congress"   
   by the Bush administration.   
      
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