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   From: ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 15:47:55 +0200, Warnock  wrote:   
      
   >   
   > "Kate "  wrote in message   
   > news:4021b801.65064968@news-west.newscene.com...   
   >   
   >   
   >> >Most women come back for more - having a second and maybe third child!   
   >>   
   >> And your opinion is that it's best to force them all to have 10 or   
   >> twelve?   
   >   
   > ****** I was talking about the average woman, who does not suffer   
   > excessively during pregnancy!   
      
   So was she, and you didn't answer her question.   
      
   >> Life only became less than brutal for women until birth control became   
   >> an option.  Many died during child birth because it's not a very safe   
   >> event.  As a matter of fact - through the first trimester, its far   
   >> safer for the woman to have an abortion than it is to maintain the   
   >> pregnancy.   
   >   
   > ****** Theoretically, no abortions need to happen in first or second   
   > trimester, as problems can be sorted out later.   
      
   The hell you say?!?!?!?!   
      
   >> Child birth should only be an option of choice not of being forced.   
   >> If you want to encourage women to not have abortions - by all means -   
   >> offer them support - financial and emotional in the having and the   
   >> keeping of their child.   
   >   
   > ****** Sure childbirth should be a 'choice' option - if you don't want a   
   > baby don't get pregnant!   
      
   And if you do get pregnant and don't want a baby, abortion is available.   
      
     Women who go to full term, get lots of support   
   > from   
   > family and friends!   
      
   Not always, and not nearly enough. Are friends and family going to pay for   
   the childs support for 18 years? Nope.   
      
   >> The same as society encourages adults to give blood or donate a kidney   
   >> or bone marrow rather than forcing them as would be cruel, society   
   >> should encourage women by support to give birth rather than having an   
   >> abortion.   
   >   
   > ****** Donating, or cetainly selling, a kidney is illegal in this   
   > country.   
      
   Selling is. Donating isn't.   
   Which, once again, does not address the point made.   
      
   >> Is that so hard to get?  You don't force people to compromise their   
   >> own lives and bodies for others.  Humane societies don't do that.   
   >   
   > ****** It's no worse than forcing people to obey any of the other moral   
   > laws   
   > in our society!   
   > Go full term, it's the right thing to do!!   
      
   Unless it's the wrong thing to do.   
      
   > --   
   > **** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't   
   > breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life   
   > into   
   > it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****   
   >   
   > ** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God   
   > exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to   
   > comply   
   > with God's Law!**   
   >   
   >   
      
      
      
   --   
   God is a noise people make when they're too tired to think anymore.   
   -Edward Abbey   
      
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