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   From: warnnock@pop.co.za   
      
   "Mark Sebree"  wrote in message   
   news:c30d43e8.0402152150.10385692@posting.google.com...   
      
      
   > > > > ****** Since God obviously exists, as is shown in my signature, you   
   > >  should   
   > > > > co-operate with God's natural laws!   
   > > >   
   > > > Absolutely nothing in your signature shows anything except that you're   
   not   
   > > > very bright...   
   > >   
   > > ****** Mark, maybe you are not very bright, or maybe, you continue to   
   deny   
   > > the evidence, because you are stubborn!   
   >   
   > Actually, you are the one that is not very bright, as well as   
   > stubborn.  Many people have explained the problems with yout "proofs"   
   > (actually unrealted statements), and yet you continue to ignore them.   
   >   
   > > Fact is, there are live humans everywhere; fact is, we can't make live   
   > > humans - logical conclusion is, there must be a Higher Intelligence, who   
   is   
   > > making 'live humans'!   
   >   
   > False.  The two facts are correct (assuming that you mean make humans   
   > artificially), but your conclusion does not follow.  The logical   
   > conclusion is that human beings do not know everything yet.  And we do   
   > make live humans all the time, naturally, which throws out your second   
   > fact as written.   There is no need to introduce a "Higher   
   > Intelligence" into the argument.  You have shown no need for such an   
   > intelligence to exist, nuch less shown that one does.   
      
   ****** Sure we create offspring through natural means - but that needs a   
   process to happen that we can not duplicate. Even if we are able to clone,   
   or use DNA, to grow a seamless biological body, we can't get it to start up   
   and breath - unless we use a natural process through the womb. All of this   
   indicates a source of higher intelligence.   
      
   > And why is that?  Because you could not face reality without it?   
      
   ****** My reality, by choice, is to include a Deity, in my life. It appears   
   unlikely that we will convince each other to change!   
      
   > You still need to learn more about forming strong logical arguments.   
   >   
   > And you still need to prove your premis that a deity exists, logically   
   > and objectively, and without taking such blatent leaps in logic.   
   > Mark Sebree   
      
   ****** I don't think that there are any 'blatant leaps' in my logic.   
      
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