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   From: ladyhawk_twonospam@hotmail.com   
      
   Warnock wrote:   
      
   > "Mark Sebree"  wrote in message   
   > news:c30d43e8.0402152112.2e983d0a@posting.google.com...   
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   >>>>>>You have given no reason, except your personal opinion, why women   
   >>>>>>should not have freely available access to abortion if they so   
   >   
   > choose.   
   >   
   >>>>>> You have, however, shown a general disregard for women, their   
   >>>>>>opinions, and their lives.  You seem to feel that women should be   
   >>>>>>subservient to men.  Such an attitude is deplorable in the   
   >   
   > extreme.   
   >   
   >>>>>****** I work on equal rights! You want a new TV, we talk. You want   
   >   
   > a   
   >   
   >>> baby,   
   >>>   
   >>>>>we talk.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Really?  Then why don't you let women have the same rights to   
   >>>>self-determination that you have?  You try to demand that they   
   >>>>continue their pregnancies against their wills.  I have seen little,   
   >>>>if any, evidence that you work for equal rights, unless you think   
   >>>>"equal rights" means that everyone is to do as you say.   
   >>>   
   >>>****** Equal rights means that within my family, things are discussed.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>Fine.  But we are not talking about just your family.  We are talking   
   >>about rights belonging to all women.  Equal rights means the same   
   >>rights for all people, no matter what race, religion, gender, sexual   
   >>orientation, or anything else.  That also means that if your wife   
   >>wants an abortion, she has a right to do so without consulting you if   
   >>she so chooses.   
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   >   
   > ****** Equal rights should mean that if she wants an abortion, we both have   
   > an equal say.   
      
   And if she says yes and you say no, who gets the final say and please   
   explain to me how it is equal.   
      
   >   
   >>>>Besides, why should anyone ask you for permission to do anything.  We   
   >>>>are not your slaves, despite your delusions.   
   >>>   
   >>>****** Slaves were outlawed some years ago!   
   >>   
   >>And you want to bring it back, it seems.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>People don't ask 'my   
   >>>permission', my contributions will lead to a more moral society!   
   >>   
   >>"More moral" in whose opinion?  Yours?  Sorry, but a secular society   
   >>cannot work on such subjective foundations as "morals".  Any laws must   
   >>have a valid, secular purpose, and any laws that do not must be thrown   
   >>out as being oppressive to some group of people.  Besides, why should   
   >>anyone care what your morals are, or be ruled by them.   
   >   
   >   
   > ****** It's not just my morals, it's the morals of society, that are at   
   > risk. For the good of society we need to promote only the highest moral   
   > standards.   
      
   Like allowing women basic human rights?   
      
   > --   
   > **** The fact that the greatest scientists, to their utter dismay, can't   
   > breath life into a dead body or create a perfect animal and breath life into   
   > it - is PROOF of a higher intelligence! ****   
   >   
   > ** People who deny that there is a God, are not so convinced that no God   
   > exists, but are using this denial as a crutch to get out of having to comply   
   > with God's Law!**   
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