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   "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
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   > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)"  wrote in message   
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   > > "Robert B. Winn"  wrote in message   
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   > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
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   > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
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   > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in   
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   > > > > > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
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   > > > > > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in   
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   > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > >  news:<130220040411538368%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article   
   > >  <7943568.0402121803.47a0a29b@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Klee  wrote in   
   message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:<120220041244559475%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article   
   > >  <7943568.0402112031.67eed173@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Klee  wrote in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   news:<100220041729586561%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article   
   > >  <7943568.0402101424.764af50c@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winn  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al Klein  wrote   
   in   
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   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
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   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 Feb 2004 12:14:37 -0800,   
   > >  rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winn) posted in alt.atheism:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Al Klein    
   wrote in   
   > >  message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
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   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 7 Feb 2004 14:27:41 -0800,   
   > >  rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Winn) posted in alt.atheism:   
   > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >I have not discovered that.  I   
   have   
   > >  a common ancestor with Jesus   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >Christ, and he was not an ape.   
   > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Since human beings are apes, the   
   only   
   > >  way he wasn't an ape is if   
   > >  he   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> didn't exist.   
   > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Well, if you want to try to   
   convince   
   > >  Jesus Christ that he is an ape   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need - any objectively real human   
   > >  being is an ape by definition.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I believe that you will have an   
   > >  opportunity to do that at his   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >second   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >coming.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wasn't alive yet back then.   
   Neither   
   > >  were you.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither were the 50,000,000 million   
   > >  children killed by abortion.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What 50,000,000 children killed by   
   abortion?   
   > >  Names? Death records?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Police reports? These are public   
   records;   
   > >  you should have *no* trouble   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting this information.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I won't.  I will just ask Jesus Christ   
   when he   
   > >  returns.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You *won't* because you *can't*, fictional   
   > >  characters or not.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So what about the twelve apostles.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about them?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think they were fictional?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Red herring.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which apostle do you think was a fish?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert B. winn   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there were all rather fishy.  The original   
   request   
   > >  was for you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > to produce the publically available records that the   
   > >  murders that you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > claim to have happened actually did happen.  You   
   stated   
   > >  that you   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > refuse to do so, stating that you will wait for an   
   > >  eternity and ask   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > the opinion of someone that doesn't exist after an   
   event   
   > >  that will   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > never happen.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > When you are confronted by your blatent evasion, you   
   > >  start throwing   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > non sequitors into the thread, hoping that people   
   will   
   > >  not notice that   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > you cannot back up your opinion with facts, because   
   your   
   > >  opinion runs   
      
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