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   From: tonyofbexarremovethis@yahoo.dk   
      
   On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:18:02 +0200, "Warnock"    
   wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"Thomas P."  wrote in message   
   >news:khf830h8vih3c30l47vvhuifp53cbehq63@4ax.com...   
   >   
   >   
   >> >> You have not demonstrated the existence of any god let alone your   
   >> >> particular one.  The argument in your sig merely assumes its   
   >> >> conclusion.   
   >> >   
   >> >****** Well, there is nothing else to assume, there are people, we did   
   >not   
   >> >make people, someone must have made people! Even the natural process,   
   >> >through pregnancy, requires an advanced system/being to bring it to   
   >> >fruitation.   
   >>   
   >> Even after it is pointed out to you, you continue to assume your   
   >> conclusion.   There is no evidence of a maker.  There is no logical   
   >> necessity for one.   
   >   
   >****** Thomas, it seems that you, Mark and I have reached a stale-mate - you   
   >have your ideas, which are atheist based, I have mine, which are theist   
   >based, but not necessarily Christian.   
   >   
      
   The idea is not atheist based.  It is very simple logic.  You have   
   assumed the need for a creator.  You have not demonstrated that the   
   universe was created.  You have merely assumed that humans, who are   
   part of the universe, required a creator.  Atheism has nothing to do   
   with the fact that your argument is flawed.   
      
   Your argument for creation is just like your argument against abortion   
   or your feelings about homosexuality.  They are all based on no more   
   than what you think should be true; they have no objective basis.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
   Thomas P.   
      
   None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.   
   "But he has got nothing on," said a little child.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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