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   Thomas P.  wrote in   
   news:f65d30ttnkvemo9q9mmjvh888snig6poaa@4ax.com:   
      
   > On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 16:18:02 +0200, "Warnock"    
   > wrote:   
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   >>"Thomas P."  wrote in message   
   >>news:khf830h8vih3c30l47vvhuifp53cbehq63@4ax.com...   
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   >>> >> You have not demonstrated the existence of any god let alone your   
   >>> >> particular one.  The argument in your sig merely assumes its   
   >>> >> conclusion.   
   >>> >   
   >>> >****** Well, there is nothing else to assume, there are people, we   
   >>> >did   
   >>not   
   >>> >make people, someone must have made people! Even the natural   
   >>> >process, through pregnancy, requires an advanced system/being to   
   >>> >bring it to fruitation.   
   >>>   
   >>> Even after it is pointed out to you, you continue to assume your   
   >>> conclusion.   There is no evidence of a maker.  There is no logical   
   >>> necessity for one.   
   >>   
   >>****** Thomas, it seems that you, Mark and I have reached a stale-mate   
   >>- you have your ideas, which are atheist based, I have mine, which are   
   >>theist based, but not necessarily Christian.   
   >>   
   >   
   > The idea is not atheist based.  It is very simple logic.  You have   
   > assumed the need for a creator.  You have not demonstrated that the   
   > universe was created.  You have merely assumed that humans, who are   
   > part of the universe, required a creator.  Atheism has nothing to do   
   > with the fact that your argument is flawed.   
   >   
   > Your argument for creation is just like your argument against abortion   
   > or your feelings about homosexuality.  They are all based on no more   
   > than what you think should be true; they have no objective basis.   
   >   
   Well said, Tom.  :o))   
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   > Thomas P.   
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   > None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.   
   > "But he has got nothing on," said a little child.   
      
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