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   XPost: alt.support.abortion, talk.abortion, us.issues.abortion   
   From: fnord2k@yahoo.com   
      
   In article <7943568.0402201626.52494be@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   Winn  wrote:   
      
   > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > news:<200220041401431581%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > In article <7943568.0402200550.ee7ca86@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > Winn  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > > news:...   
   > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
   > > > > news:<7943568.0402171639.325a07c6@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > > > > news:...   
   > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > news:<7943568.0402150533.246ff8c8@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > news:...   
   > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > news:<7943568.0402131727.1a9e4b1e@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > William Klee  wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > news:<130220041336300785%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > In article ,   
   > Attila   
   > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:54:27 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"   
   > > > > > > > > > > >  in alt.abortion with message-id   
   > > > > > > > > > > >  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >And so upon Fri, 13 Feb 2004 04:13:13 -0600 didst   
   William   
   > >  Klee speak   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >thusly:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >> In article   
   > >  <7943568.0402121806.1ea4e0e5@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >> Winn  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >>   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Well, I am not sure what he wrote in, but he was   
   aware   
   > >  that there   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >>> would be other languages besides the one he used.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >>   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >> You also claim that even though he didn't write what   
   > you   
   > >  claim he   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote, he *meant* what you claim he wrote because he   
   > knew   
   > >  you'd be   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >> reading it in English someday. That's funny, in a   
   > pathetic   
   > >  sort of way.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >What's even funnier is Boobert admitting he really   
   > doesn't   
   > >  understand   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >this thing about the bible being written in other   
   > languages.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >I'd bet money he really does *not understand that...   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > He probably can't understand other languages.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't claim he can understand English.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Well, let's concentrate on one English word.  What does the   
   > word   
   > > > > > > > > > child mean?   
   > > > > > > > > > Robert b. winn   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > A person between birth an puberty.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Someone who is acting childish (You, for example).   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > So what do you think the word child means in this scripture?   
   > > > > > > > Luke 2:5  To be taxed  with Mary his espoused wife, being great   
   > > > > > > > with   
   > > > > > > > child.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > That Mary was pregnant.  That is what the idiom "with child" means,   
   > > > > > > and that is what the latin says.  Your opinion on the matter has no   
   > > > > > > bearing on reality.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > By the way, we already know that the KJV is a poor translation.    
   You   
   > > > > > > don't have to keep tellinf us this.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Jesus Christ seems to have been a child while he was in his   
   > > > > > > > mother's   
   > > > > > > > womb.   
   > > > > > > > Robert B. winn   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Only in your fevered imagination.  In reality, assuming that Jesus   
   > > > > > > actually existed, at the time, he was a fetus.  He did not become a   
   > > > > > > child until his birth.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Let us know when you will be joining us in the real world.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Good thing we have the Bible to tell us what a child is, right?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Who cares what the Bible says?  We live in a secular world.  You could   
   > > > > also be saying "Good thing that the Sutras tell us what a child is."   
   > > > > Or the Eddas, or any other religious writings.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Religious definions have no place in the secular world.  Also, I have   
   > > > > not seen state and back up your assertion.  That verse from Luke that   
   > > > > you love so much is a sloppy translation that uses an idiom for   
   > > > > "pregnant".  You cannot accept that all the verse says is that Mary   
   > > > > was pregnant.  What's more, you cannot accept that you opinion about   
   > > > > what the Bible says has no bearing on the issue, since the Bible is a   
   > > > > mythology, and we are dealing with facts and the real world, and   
   > > > > religious definitions have no place in it because none of the myriad   
   > > > > of religious beliefs that people subscribe to are allowed to hold sway   
   > > > > over everyone else.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > Otherwise everyone might be susceptible to joining you in killing   
   > > > > > children.   
   > > > > > Robert B. Winn   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I have not killed, nor do I advocate killing, children.  Children have   
   > > > > been born, and abortion does not kill any children.  Your   
   > > > > feeble-minded delusions cannot change the reality of the situation,   
   > > > > and everyone is entitled to ignore your baseless opinions.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > >   
   > > > I am entitled to dismiss you.  You are dismissed.   
   > >   
   > > Dismiss away boobie. All you're doing is stamping your feet and having   
   > > a tantrum.   
   >   
   > You think so?   
      
   If I didn't think so, I wouldn't have posted it. You see, unlike *you*,   
   I don't feel a need to lie about anything.   
      
   > I told you the very first time I posted here I was   
   > going to wait for the second coming of Jesus Christ.   
      
   So? Sitting on your ass shooting off your mouth is sitting on your ass   
   shooting off your mouth no matter what noble shroud you attempt to   
   drape over it.   
      
   --   
   ...and in elder days there were wars in the Heavens between the Ibemmeraphim   
   and the Angels of the Apple of Knowledge...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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