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   "Robert B. Winn" wrote in message   
   news:7943568.0402211841.39a504d7@posting.google.com...   
   > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)" wrote in message   
   news:...   
   > > "Robert B. Winn" wrote in message   
   > > news:7943568.0402210637.49bf3ab6@posting.google.com...   
   > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)" wrote in message   
   > > news:...   
   > > > > "Robert B. Winn" wrote in message   
   > > > > news:7943568.0402201629.ce475c4@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)" wrote in   
   message   
   > > news:...   
   > > > > > > "Robert B. Winn" wrote in message   
   > > > > > > news:7943568.0402200552.3d55e23e@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > "MrD Pstychologist \(retired\)" wrote in   
   > > message   
   > > news:...   
   > > > > > > > > "Mark Sebree" wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > news:c30d43e8.0402181406.519d59bd@posting.google.com...   
   > > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in message   
   > > news:<7943568.0402171639.325a07c6@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in   
   message   
   > > news:<7943568.0402150533.246ff8c8@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > sebree@infionline.net (Mark Sebree) wrote in message   
   > > news:...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > rbwinn47@mybluelight.com (Robert B. Winn) wrote in   
   > > message   
   > > news:<7943568.0402131727.1a9e4b1e@posting.google.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Klee wrote in   
   message   
   > > news:<130220041336300785%fnord2k@yahoo.com>...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In article   
   > > > > ,   
   > > > > Attila   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:54:27 -0600, "Mark K.   
   > > Bilbo"   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in alt.abortion with   
   > > message-id   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
      
   > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >And so upon Fri, 13 Feb 2004 04:13:13 -0600   
   > > didst   
   > > William Klee speak   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >thusly:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> In article   
   > > <7943568.0402121806.1ea4e0e5@posting.google.com>, Robert B.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Winn wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Well, I am not sure what he wrote in,   
   but he   
   > > was   
   > > aware that there   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> would be other languages besides the one   
   he   
   > > used.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> You also claim that even though he didn't   
   > > write   
   > > > > what   
   > > > > you claim he   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote, he *meant* what you claim he wrote   
   > > because   
   > > > > he   
   > > > > knew you'd be   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> reading it in English someday. That's   
   funny,   
   > > in a   
   > > pathetic sort of way.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >What's even funnier is Boobert admitting he   
   > > really   
   > > doesn't understand   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >this thing about the bible being written in   
   > > other   
   > > languages.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I'd bet money he really does *not   
   understand   
   > > that...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He probably can't understand other   
   languages.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't claim he can understand English.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, let's concentrate on one English word.   
   What   
   > > does   
   > > > > the   
   > > > > word child mean?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert b. winn   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > A person between birth an puberty.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone who is acting childish (You, for example).   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > So what do you think the word child means in this   
   > > scripture?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Luke 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife,   
   > > being   
   > > > > great   
   > > > > with child.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > That Mary was pregnant. That is what the idiom "with   
   > > child"   
   > > means,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > and that is what the latin says. Your opinion on the   
   > > matter   
   > > > > has   
   > > > > no   
   > > > > > > > > > > > bearing on reality.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, we already know that the KJV is a poor   
   > > > > translation.   
   > > > > You   
   > > > > > > > > > > > don't have to keep tellinf us this.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus Christ seems to have been a child while he was   
   in   
   > > his   
   > > mother's womb.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert B. winn   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Only in your fevered imagination. In reality,   
   assuming   
   > > that   
   > > Jesus   
   > > > > > > > > > > > actually existed, at the time, he was a fetus. He did   
   not   
   > > > > become   
   > > > > a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > child until his birth.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Let us know when you will be joining us in the real   
   world.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Mark Sebree   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Good thing we have the Bible to tell us what a child is,   
   > > right?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Here's one thing the bible says about conception:   
   > > > > > > > > Leviticus 12:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If   
   a   
   > > woman   
   > > > > > > > > have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be   
   > > unclean   
   > > > > > > > > seven days; according to the days of the separation for her   
   > > infirmity   
   > > > > > > > > shall she be unclean.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > The bible calls it 'conceived seed'. It's not a man child   
   til   
   > > it's   
   > > > > > > > > born.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > To be fair, Luke says a babe leapt in the womb (Luke 1:41)   
   and   
   > > also   
   > > says   
   > > > > > > > > later (Luke 2:12) the babe was wrapped in swaddling   
   clothes..   
   > > This   
      
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